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King of Loss
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Topic: Why Dream Theater is the Best Prog band!! Posted: July 02 2005 at 16:43 |
Ok, guys. This is actually a fake thread, so you guys can sign the petition:
www.one.org
Sign and tell your friends.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 16:45 |
Heheehehe... What a dirrrrrrty trick!!!
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 16:47 |
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
Heheehehe... What a dirrrrrrty trick!!! |
No 'tis for a good cause.
GET UP ON YOUR ASSES AND STOP SPENDING OUR HUNDREDS A MONTH ON PR000000G CDS AND SIGN THAT PETITION!
Jus' Kiddin', but yea... Sign it.
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Tony R
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 17:18 |
I signed it.
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SonicTemple
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 17:29 |
done!!
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Fire Woman, your to blame!
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 17:30 |
Ow our favourite Lady's singing in London Now...
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 18:28 |
PINK FLOYD!!!!!!!!
I couldn't believe my eyes it was so awesome.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 19:02 |
Ow yeah...... David was awesome!!!!
Ow and btw what did they play first? I was late... I was watching from the begining of "Money"...
Edited by Ed_The_Dead
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Man With Hat
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 19:13 |
Breathe
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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The Doctor
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Posted: July 02 2005 at 19:17 |
I must state my unequivocal objection to this posting. Dream Theater is in no way the best prog band. And just in case someone may think otherwise, I have actually read the posts in here. Just my attempt to use humor to voice my disagreement.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Joren
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 07:30 |
WE BELIEVE that in the best American tradition of helping others help themselves, now is the time to join with other countries in a historic pact for compassion and justice to help the poorest people of the world overcome AIDS and extreme poverty. WE RECOGNIZE that a pact including such measures as fair trade, debt relief, fighting corruption and directing additional resources for basic needs education, health, clean water, food, and care for orphans would transform the futures and hopes of an entire generation in the poorest countries, at a cost equal to just one percent more of the US budget. WE COMMIT ourselves - one person, one voice, one vote at a time - to make a better, safer world for all.
Why do we need to sign this declaration? I am already committing myself to making a better, safer world. You know how? By not fighting. BTW this declaration is written to Americans only... why? A bit strange...
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Tony R
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 07:35 |
Joren wrote:
WE BELIEVE that in the best American tradition of helping others help themselves, now is the time to join with other countries in a historic pact for compassion and justice to help the poorest people of the world overcome AIDS and extreme poverty. WE RECOGNIZE that a pact including such measures as fair trade, debt relief, fighting corruption and directing additional resources for basic needs education, health, clean water, food, and care for orphans would transform the futures and hopes of an entire generation in the poorest countries, at a cost equal to just one percent more of the US budget. WE COMMIT ourselves - one person, one voice, one vote at a time - to make a better, safer world for all.
Why do we need to sign this declaration? I am already committing myself to making a better, safer world. You know how? By not fighting.
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Nice one Joren,that'll really help to put food on the tables of Africa!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 07:37 |
The single reason why the african people are so poor and so many children are dying each second, is the absence of birth control. As long as the people there continue to have so many children while KNOWING that they have little chances of surviving, the poverty and misery will not subside.
That is my opinion, and I stand by it.
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sideways
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 07:47 |
How about an effective organization or effort to get our homeless off the streets, fed, and given the medical treatment they need.
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"Who would wish this on our people?..And proclaim that his will be done" Sacrificed Sons - Dream Theater
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boo boo
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 07:48 |
done. =)
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sideways
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 07:58 |
boo boo wrote:
done. =) |
you Da Man!!!!
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"Who would wish this on our people?..And proclaim that his will be done" Sacrificed Sons - Dream Theater
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Joren
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 08:13 |
Tony R wrote:
Joren wrote:
WE BELIEVE that in the best American tradition of helping others help themselves, now is the time to join with other countries in a historic pact for compassion and justice to help the poorest people of the world overcome AIDS and extreme poverty. WE RECOGNIZE that a pact including such measures as fair trade, debt relief, fighting corruption and directing additional resources for basic needs education, health, clean water, food, and care for orphans would transform the futures and hopes of an entire generation in the poorest countries, at a cost equal to just one percent more of the US budget. WE COMMIT ourselves - one person, one voice, one vote at a time - to make a better, safer world for all.
Why do we need to sign this declaration? I am already committing myself to making a better, safer world. You know how? By not fighting.
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Nice one Joren,that'll really help to put food on the tables of Africa!
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I'm sorry if I sounded like an asshole there. But what I'm trying to say is: how can signing this petition help to put food on the tables of Africa? Is this what they are going to present to the leaders at the G8. If so, I am certainly willing to sign. The goal of the petition was not clear.
EDIT I just realized that I didn΄t read the trest of the website thoroughly... I just signed.
I still don΄t understand why the declaration is only talking about the U.S. though... Could someone explain
Edited by Joren
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barbs
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Location: Australia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 09:45 |
Done - good idea KoL
Joren
Do a search for 8live and you will get other sites to sign for other
countries as well. Tony Blair has been one of the few leaders to
actually support this concept so I think Britain will stand behind it.
The US however is the country with byfar the greatest amount of wealth
to give. If the world was only 100 people, 6 would own 61% of the world
and they would all come from the US.
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Eternity
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barbs
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 09:58 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The single reason why the african people are
so poor and so many children are dying each second, is the absence of
birth control. As long as the people there continue to have so
many children while KNOWING that they have little chances of
surviving, the poverty and misery will not subside.
That is my opinion, and I stand by it. |
Mike, I appreciate why you might say that, however, that does not take
into account the incredible mismanagent of funds in some of those
countries. There has been over a trillion dollars of aid to Africa in
the last 20 years and unfortunately because of corruption and cronism
the people who should have benefited from it most quite often didn't
get to see it.
The reality is that there should be a concerted effort on not
just an economic front but a political will for govt for the people by
the people with integrity within govt and an honest agenda for social
change to work on Aids and birth control (as you suggest) to provide
health, education and economic security including proper resource
management (they are still fighting in Nigeria over oil rights) and
each country be assesed for potential for industry and viable job
creation. But the first thing they need is fresh water and food in
their stomachs.
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Eternity
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 10:10 |
barbs wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The single reason why the african people are so poor and so many children are dying each second, is the absence of birth control. As long as the people there continue to have so many children while KNOWING that they have little chances of surviving, the poverty and misery will not subside.
That is my opinion, and I stand by it.
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Mike, I appreciate why you might say that, however, that does not take into account the incredible mismanagent of funds in some of those countries. There has been over a trillion dollars of aid to Africa in the last 20 years and unfortunately because of corruption and cronism the people who should have benefited from it most quite often didn't get to see it.
The reality is that there should be a concerted effort on not just an economic front but a political will for govt for the people by the people with integrity within govt and an honest agenda for social change to work on Aids and birth control (as you suggest) to provide health, education and economic security including proper resource management (they are still fighting in Nigeria over oil rights) and each country be assesed for potential for industry and viable job creation. But the first thing they need is fresh water and food in their stomachs.
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All you're saying is true. I just think that all attempts to really change the situation will fail until the underlying problem is solved. If all the problems that you mentioned were solved, Africa would still be a poor continent, because there simply are way too many people living there, compared to their natural resources.
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