Radiohead

Robert Fripp doesn't consider King Crimson prog, but that hasn't stopped anybody...

And arcer is right.  Chill the f**k out.

y'see, people get upset cause they're a band that makes bold, radical statements and pushes the envelope just like ELP.....

DOH!!!!!! get 'em out by Friday!

I've always thought the biggest problem that some prog fans have is that they are insular and elitist. This thread has confimed this for me.

We should praise mainstream bands who stick their necks out and try to develop into something more challenging and progressive. Radiohead have certainly done this from the straight forward rock of Pablo Honey to the difficult to listen to (on first few hearings) Kid A and Amnesiac.

It would have been so easy to have stayed in the comfort zone created by OK Computer but Thom Yorke is far too inventive and realised that it would mean the end for Radiohead.

I have only come to this site in the last year and found groups like Voivod and Opeth who I was listening to in the 90's thinking they were thrash metal and found them to be included, on reflection I can see why they are included and don't have a problem with this.

A couple of years ago I remember Steve Hogarth on the radio comparing Marillion to Radiohead. Where does that leave the argument? Do we say that Marillion have gone in the opposite direction?

I cannot think of a current band that deserves the title of progressive rock more, even if they don't like the idea themselves.

frenchie wrote: if radiohead are in then that gives bands like muse, doves and elbow an equal chance cos they have the same amount of prog elements. but they dont get to be in so why shud radiohead? at the rate we're going AC/DC will be added next! There has always been a strong wall between what is prog and what isnt and now that wall has been broken so tonnes of bands that have a slight prog element will probably be let in now. they must have known that this would cause tonnes of controversy yet they went against what the people of this archive want and added them anyway. i thought it was reli respectful of them not to add them after the months and months of debate and now that they have i have lost faith in this site.

You've lost faith in this site just because they added one band (a band you like, I might add) who you don't think should be in here????  As I said earlier, calm down!!!

What sets Radiohead apart from bands like Muse and Doves is that if you can find a Muse song that reaches the epic heights of Paranoid Android or Climbing up the Walls, or pushes the enevloppe of modern music in the way that Kid A did as an album, then I've evidently misjudged Muse greatly.  Same goes for the Doves.

Where did AC/DC come from?  Surely you must admit that RH at least has more prog merrits than AC/DC...

Aqualung, Muse is pretty much Radiohead without the daring experimentation that makes Radiohead so great.

I also voted for Fantomas, amazing band.

But back to the point, Sweetnighter did you said a Punk band can play Progressive music???

Punk was born suposedly to destroy what progressive did to music, they did music based in 2 or 3 chords, they can't play progressive rock unless they do a cover album.

By the way, Progressive Rock is a genre, if not we lost most of our live until now. 

Goose, you said: "try and equate Yes, ELP, Rush, Jethro Tull and Tangerine Dream!" they are different, that's why there are sub-genres like Symphonic. Neo Prog', Folk Prog, Fusion, Canterbury, Prog' Metal, etc.

Useful, you said: "Where did AC/DC come from?  Surely you must admit that RH at least has more prog merrits than AC/DC..."

Of course, anybody has more prog merits than AC/DC but that means nothing.

Iván

Me too and don't forget Mum!!!! they're all brilliant and a lot more innovative than flippin' Dream Theatre

ivan_2068 wrote: But back to the point, Sweetnighter did you said a Punk band can play Progressive music??? Punk was born suposedly to destroy what progressive did to music, they did music based in 2 or 3 chords, they can't play progressive rock unless they do a cover album.

This is true in theory, but if you need proof that there are punk bands who go beyond it, download the song "Marquee Moon" by Television (which clocks in at over 10 minutes and has extended soloing that would make Yes jealous) or "The Decline" by NOFX (which clocks in at nearly 20, and has tons of different sections that sound totally different from each other, and even some soloing).  Or listen to The Mars Volta, who have a strong punk aspect in their music, but are undeniably prog.