Why Are Good Drummers So Rare?

Peter wrote: ^ HA!     Next time I o'erindulge, and puke beer through my nose (very, very, VERY rare occurance, these last 15 or so years, thank cod!), I'll save it in a bucket for all you British "real ale" drinkers, and fans of bottle-conditioned brews.... "Re-fermented in bucket -- contents will be naturally cloudy."   Mmmmmmm! Lumpy!

Had that offer come from someone used to drinking good old British real-ale, it would have been tempting.

However, what you fail to grasp, Peter, is that the beer has to be good quality pre-regurgitation, not the fermented moose milk you routinely imbibe. The standard practice for disposal of - how can I put this - collonial beer vomit is to strain it, allow it to clarify, fizz it up again, then sell it to Australia, labelled as 'Fosters'.

arcer wrote: why are good drummers so rare? Because they can never remember the way to the rehearsal room, or indeed, occasionally the name of the band they are in. Actually, I had the good fortune to play with a number of excellent drummers, two of whom could actually write!!!! I consider myself blessed

As Oscar Wilde might have said; "To know one good drummer is very fortunate. To know two is greedy."

Woah Woah woah, slow down there children. As a prog Drummer I can honestly say that it's harder to find a bassist and a singer tan a drummer, no question.

Take it from a guy who has searched high and low for non flakes, it goes both way. I also do some of the aranging (for all you non musician jokesters out there).

Michael

To be completely honest, a good drummer isn't as rare as a good singer. Usually the trouble and expense of a drumkit weeds out the pretenders, but there's no such barrier for vocalists...any fool with a throat can start to think they're can sing.

In my experience, drummers tend to cause less trouble, too.

Jim Garten wrote: Had that offer come from someone used to drinking good old British real-ale, it would have been tempting. However, what you fail to grasp, Peter, is that the beer has to be good quality pre-regurgitation, not the fermented moose milk you routinely imbibe. The standard practice for disposal of - how can I put this - collonial beer vomit is to strain it, allow it to clarify, fizz it up again, then sell it to Australia, labelled as 'Fosters'.

Absolutely classic. I'm currently on holiday in Houston trying to come to terms with beer that actually tastes worse than Tennents. 

 

Prog bassists are extremely easy to find. Prog guitarists are a bit harder, but not really that hard. Prog has a sort of converse to normal rock. While most rock bands have trouble finding a good bassist (meaning one who plays along and never embellishes) and they have one guy switch from guitar to bass, prog has too many bassists who end up switching to guitar! (that's probably what I'll be doing).

On the drummer thing, yeah they're real hard to find. Drum kits are LOUD. You have to find someone whose parents will put up with it, plus they have to be good and prog-oriented, and usually drummers are not proggers, but metalheads. That's really the reason.

us drummers are rare because were so damn cool

I don't know why, but in popular music today, the prevalent drum sound is what i call "a big sound" in a pejorative way.

For example, i've been to a Soft Machine concert two years ago.
I found all the musicians to be good, except the drummer who had a big sound.
Nothing to do with the coltranian delicate touch of wyatt!!

I liek Phiol COllins sound better then steve cokeland sound, but I know thats my own opiniopn and everybody has there own opinion. I have my own u have ur own opinion. so we cant disagree because we each have ourr own one. BUt I like Collins better (my opinion).

THis post would make a good essay.

Good drummers are hard to to find because most drummers can't play anything not in 4/4 time. And when the song is in 4/4 time, the little ankle-biters just wanna hit the hi-hat and bass drum on every eighth note and the snare on the second and fourth beat of each measure. C'MON. You guys know what I'm talking about: bass-bass-SNARE-bass-bass-bass-SNARE. As Neil Peart put it, "Most drummers don't play drums--they play BEATS." Especially these Christian bands. Talk about a lack of musicianship. Their songs are all corny, but their image is wannabe-punk. Bands like Relient K or Jar's of Clay think they are real cute. I'm all for Christian music, but if these posers tried half as hard to master their respective instruments as they try to please Jesus and the Lord, maybe they would be more popular and earn the respect of the media. GOSH!!!

I've gotten a little off topic havent I?

Well, they don't call this a FORUM for nothin' do they?