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Poll Question: Should TRAFFIC be added to the archives?
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    Posted: January 17 2005 at 12:04

I've got only their Mr Fantasy album, but it's really a great, incredible album!

Their early songs Hole In My Shoes and Paper Sun (included in the american album and in the CD version) are little psychedelic rock pearls!
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Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

sorry!

Hey, no problem Frenchie, I wasn't having a pop!Wink

Wishbone Ash are/were a fine band.

 
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I forgot to say that I consider Traffic as a Prog band. Now, with Traffic included in this website, I can write more reviews. If ELO and Jon & Vangelis could be included in Progarchives, I could write more . But that is another story. But I have written reviews for almost all the Prog albums that I have in my collection, so my "next reviews list" is less short now! 

The "Welcome to the Canteen" album is good. But, I remembered that it has related sad stories:

Reebop and Chris Wood died in 1983. Rick Grech died in 1990. Jim Gordon is in prison since 1984. He has schizophrenia since then (others, like Derek and the Dominos` keyboard player Bobby Whitlock, who played with Gordon in that band,  say that he had mental problems since the early 70s), and he killed his mother in 1983. Instead of being sent to a psychiatric hospital, due the Californian laws then he was sent to a  prison . A very sad story, because he was one of the best session musicians in the U.S. since the 60s.



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HEY!! THE CRAZY WORLD OF ARTHUR BROWN IS MOST DEFINITELY PROG!!!! Atomic Rooster was created out of the ashes of Crazy World...Atomic Rooster is in here. Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come is in here...THE CRAZY WORLD MUST GET IN!!! IT MUST!!!
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Points: 12813 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2005 at 19:55
Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

what about wishbone ash?


On the basis of a couple of distinctly prog tunes on a handful of albums............................?
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I'd say all of their studio albums from 'John Barleycorn...' onwards are prog, although I do take the point about some of their albums being padded out with extended jams. Having said that, the best prog acts were often more than a little inconsistent. Tull retained a strong blues/r&b base at least as far as Aqualung, and the middle section of Floyd's Money is a direct quote from Booker T and the MGs. Even my beloved Crimso filled a good part of Earthbound with rather pedestrian jamming, and what about ELP's take on 'The Nutrocker'?
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Wishbone Ash have come up quite regularly in the forum Frenchie, including this one on bands with one off prog albums:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=823 

Co-incidentally, you had the last word (so far) on that one!Big smile
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what about wishbone ash?
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2005 at 14:21
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I don't know why you're asking for them to be in the Archives, when they're already here... http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=1490

(so why aren't Queen )

Traffic have just been added this week Cert, perhaps in response to this thread?

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Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

The "obviously X aren't a prog band as such" argument doesn't carry much weight when you consider some of the hugely less prog bands already in the archives... (no names - you know who I mean...)

What the Styx are you talking about?

Asia well know, I can't name names... 
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Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

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Why aren't they prog?

Simple - because they don't have enough prog elements. R&B with extended jams, yes. Prog - no.

Good grief - we'll have Spooky Tooth, Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Edgar Broughton Band and Savoy Brown in the archives next; all bands I love, and progressive, but none of them prog.



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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

The "obviously X aren't a prog band as such" argument doesn't carry much weight when you consider some of the hugely less prog bands already in the archives... (no names - you know who I mean...)

What the Styx are you talking about?
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The "obviously X aren't a prog band as such" argument doesn't carry much weight when you consider some of the hugely less prog bands already in the archives... (no names - you know who I mean...)
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I don't know why you're asking for them to be in the Archives, when they're already here... http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=1490



IMO, it's good to have Traffic in the Archives, although most of their albums should never be listed as Prog.

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


(so why aren't Queen )



Well, obviously Queen isn't a prog band as such, but Queen II is an album which I hope each and every progRock fan knows from top to bottom... not being essential to any Queen fan, it is still their best effort (with a night at the opera) and in my ears fits in the progarchives just as well as, say, Traffic.

I'd hate to see A Kind of Magic reviewd here, though...

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Steve Winwood sings like a caserolle...
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a deaf dialog...

Why aren't they prog?
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Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Fabulous band - amazing vocals from Mr Winwood - but not prog



I hate the vocals but they are prog!!!

I like the vocals, but they are not prog - as I said.



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Have you heard the keyboard solo on the piece "low spark" from the album "low spark"?!!
Much more prog than late 70's /80's cheesy bands often quoted here...
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2005 at 03:21
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Fabulous band - amazing vocals from Mr Winwood - but not prog



I hate the vocals but they are prog!!!
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