To include ELO in Progarchives

NO DOUBT, in their heyday, they were included with
the Moodies, Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP. Jethro Tull, Mike
Oldfield, Genesis, King Crimson and Gentle Giant
as the main progressive rock bands coming from
England. Even though they moved into more
commercial ground after there first 4 albums I cant
blame them. Almost everything put out by these
bands after that was watered down crap and
controlled by the record companies. The fact Jeff
Lynne was smart enough to steer another course in
hind sight wasnt a bad idea. They made more
money being commercial than most of these guys
did.
The Move(pre ELO), Traffic and the Moody Blues
were considered progressive rock when Pink Floyd
was still considered psychedelic experimental rock
and the rest were still nursing on the Beatles and
their output.

Edited by DallasBryan

No,again.
First 4 albums had 'elements' of prog but on the whole
they are Beatles Revolver-Abbey Road homages

Guillermo wrote: I think that the Electric Light Orchestra should be included in this website. In my opinion, this band mixed Rock music with very good orchestral arrangements. I consider, at least, that their first 4 albums are more Progressive ("The Electric Light Orchestra" (71), "ELO2" (73), "On the Third Day" (73) and "Eldorado" (74)). Maybe they became more Pop rockers later, but other Prog bands like YES, GENESIS, PFM, TRIUMVIRAT, THE MOODY BLUES and others did it too. What do you think?

Sorry Guillermo, we have this question asked every two or three months and it always gets voted down. I love ELO, 'Out Of The Blue' was the first album I ever owned and I can still find new things in it even today but for me, the argument is a tad futile as everybody remembers them for the pop stuff not the tricky stuff that they did in the early days. IMO they just don't 'feel' very proggy.

What would Roy Wood think of us?  

DallasBryan wrote: here we go again with the brits defining the catagory. they have decided for us, its been debated at Oxford and the Queen has made a ruling. think for once everyone else should decide this one!

Off you go then... 

I just wnt to say that I voted NO WAY. I like a  Roll Over Beethoven but that`s about as far as I go with ELO.

OK then! Lets keep it a british idea of what should
and shouldnt be progressive, after all its safer that
way keeps em inline. BLAH!!!
Give up the control, New Gibraltar dont have any
problem with the inclusion of Traffic, ELO, Todd
Rundgren, Cluster, Klaus Schulze, Guru Guru, etc.
And calls RUSH not to prog themselves! But for my
Canadian friends and British folk lets keep it safe,
kinda give you a sense of well being, BLAH!!!
And for my American friends quit letting them lead
you around by the nose!

Again, The Move(pre ELO), Traffic and the Moody
Blues were considered progressive rock when Pink
Floyd was still considered psychedelic experimental
rock and the rest were still nursing on the Beatles
and their output.


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I don't want to hear it
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I don't want to hear it


Edited by DallasBryan

DallasBryan wrote: OK then! Lets keep it a british idea of what should and shouldnt be progressive, after all its safer that way keeps em inline. BLAH!!! Give up the control, New Gibraltar dont have any problem with the inclusion of Traffic, ELO, Todd Rundgren, Cluster, Klaus Schulze, Guru Guru, etc. And calls RUSH not to prog themselves! But for my Canadian friends and British folk lets keep it safe, kinda give you a sense of well being, BLAH!!! And for my American friends quit letting them lead you around by the nose! Again, The Move(pre ELO), Traffic and the Moody Blues were considered progressive rock when Pink Floyd was still considered psychedelic experimental rock and the rest were still nursing on the Beatles and their output. ------------------------------ There's a new kid in town Ooh, hoo Everybody's talking 'bout the new kid in town Ooh, hoo Everybody's walking' like the new kid in town There's a new kid in town There's a new kid in town I don't want to hear it There's a new kid in town I don't want to hear it

I dunno what you are getting at, this isn't New Gibraltar who says they have it right anyway..are you saying that the British members here are shepherds and the americans are sheep?

 

i was talking to bryan, of course

I think if your gonna have Supertramp  - there's must exist at least a case for ELO - their first two lp's at least - I think if we take controversial inclusions like ELO - or Supertramp then maybe we could just list the early LP's -

For Eg Supertramp's 1st is quite proggy in its own way

and same with ELO's second LP. It might be a way around it. Just include certain LP's - but of course then its just gonna be well what LP's and your back to grey areas I spose'

Garion81 wrote: oliverstoned wrote: sigod wrote: DallasBryan wrote: here we go again with the brits defining the catagory. they have decided for us, its been debated at Oxford and the Queen has made a ruling. think for once everyone else should decide this one! Off you go then... There's no risk of its being debated by your monkey-brainless-president Why would make such a stupid stament? It has nothing to with this thread.

Sorry, it was to answer to Dallasbryan!
that's him who start!
But, as the proverb says, only thruth wounds!