Question about George W Bush

spectral wrote: ^ not you personally, just the actions of your govt!  Shame really, as I lived in the States for a number of years and I like it over there!

I love this place. Born here. Lived here all my life.
Hate the policies of my government. Totally disagree
with them. In a recent AP poll 53% of Americans
polled thought the "Iraq War" was a mistake.

I love that I can voice my opinion about it (sort of).
I wish more people would become involved.

If you don't vote you can't complain.
"My vote doesn't matter."
Bullsh*t.
But then again.... in Florida....all those years ago..
Where is she now?

The majority don't hate us?
Thank you for your expert assesment of the balance
of power on the world scene.

The Poll's question reads, "Do you like what Mr. George W. Bush is doing?". ( Bold is mine, obviously). BUT the choices which are laid out do not allow us to answer that question. I do not like most of what President Bush does, or, in some cases, fails to do. I strongly disagree with any form of paternalism, which Republicans are notorious for. We don't need a daddy, we need a friend in Office.

But, this is not to say that I don't like him. I've never met him. Why the eagerness to "hate" a person?

 

Well, leadership to me is just being a good example for others. 24 hours a day. Giving sound advice about what's good and what's harmful, etc. is part of it too. This thing about someone going on a kick about protecting us from a proverbial Big Bad Wolf is totally uncalled for. We are adults and can take care of ourselves. Or at the very least we are capable of making our own decisions on the most basic of everyday issues.

 

Edited by ldlanberg

ldlanberg: "But, this is not to say that I don't like him. I've never met him. Why the eagerness to "hate" a person?"

I hate what he is doing.  His policies are divisive and dangerous.  I never met Hitler but I hate him.  I'm not comparing Bush to Hitler, but I'm judging the guy on his actions, not his personality orwhether he a thoroughly nice chap!

marktheshark: "The majority doesn't hate us. They're just jealous"

It is far from being jealously, it is quite simply hatred.  You are exacerbating tensions in the world and inciting violence through your own violence in Iraq.

marktheshark: "You don't think Al Queda is something we should be protected from?"

Do you really fear the al qaida threat?  Hasn't it been blown out of all proportion?  There was a newspaper article recently which said that the threat from eco-terrorists is far stronger than that of al qaida.

spectral wrote: <SPAN =bold>ldlanberg: "</SPAN>But, this is not to say that I don't like him. I've never met him. Why the eagerness to "hate" a person?" I hate what he is doing.  His policies are divisive and dangerous.  I never met Hitler but I hate him.  I'm not comparing Bush to Hitler, but I'm judging the guy on his actions, not his personality orwhether he a thoroughly nice chap! <SPAN =bold>marktheshark: "The majority doesn't hate us. They're just jealous"</SPAN> <SPAN =bold></SPAN>It is far from being jealously, it is quite simply hatred.  You are exacerbating tensions in the world and inciting violence through your own violence in Iraq. <SPAN =bold>marktheshark: "Y</SPAN>ou don't think Al Queda is something we should be protected from?" <SPAN =bold></SPAN>Do you really fear the al qaida threat?  Hasn't it been blown out of all proportion?  There was a newspaper article recently which said that the threat from eco-terrorists is far stronger than that of al qaida.

If we're so hated. Then why are people from all over the world dying to get here?

As for the violence. Ours is a world governed by the agressive use of force. Sad but true. It would be nice if we could all hold hands and sing "We Are The World" but that utopian dream is just what it is, a dream. Sorry. I'm not to keen on what's going on in Iraq either, especially when we had some unfinished business in Afganistan. But what's done is done. We just can't walk out with our tails between our legs. Some of you might hate me for saying this, but the only way to end what's going on in Iraq is give the people in the Sudanese triangle 72 hours notice to evacuate and bomb the hell out of it. Knock out every arsenal using infrareds. When done, then let the Iraq security forces take over. If we just simply walk out, we'll never hear the end of it.

When the first bombing of the WTC happened, Clinton did nothing. When the embassies in Africa were bombed, again nothing. When the USS Cole was hit (which a Navy buddy of mine was on, but wasn't killed) Clinton did nothing again. Then what happened?

marktheshark wrote: synthguy wrote: The majority don't hate us? Thank you for your expert assesment of the balance of power on the world scene. Go ahead, keep going. I'm all ears.

What can I say, you got me. I'm no expert.
I was a little..err.."angry"... when I made that remark.
Peace.

^ Blair is as bad as Bush, you're totally right.  I'm Irish though, I only live here, but I despise the politics.  I'm sure Blair thought it would help raise his profile if the UK joined up to the war.  It's good that it backfired, but the guy is still in Downing Street, just like Bush is still in the White House.  It's only due to weak and non-existent opposition to the respective govt's that they're both still there.

Get prog out to the middle east - that will help the peace process!!

marktheshark wrote: Also there was subsantial evidence that Sadam was harboring Al Queda members.

That's a really interesting remark. Is it based on some positive data or on Fox news? Can you please elaborate on that information? I'd love to understand how a completely secular government could be harboring religious fundamentalist terrorists...

 

nacho wrote: marktheshark wrote: Also there was subsantial evidence that Sadam was harboring Al Queda members. That's a really interesting remark. Is it based on some positive data or on Fox news? Can you please elaborate on that information? I'd love to understand how a completely secular government could be harboring religious fundamentalist terrorists...

Well, look at the insurgents we're fighting now. If they're not fundamentalist extremists, what are they? Their leader (what's name, I can't remember) came across the Syrian border a few years back and was treated with a broken leg in Saddam's palace.

If you all are wondering about my background on these type of things, my dad was a 30 yr CIA official, I was in the Navy for 5 years and worked as a civilian at International Affairs Research Div at the Pentagon for 5 years. I got out the whole gov thing, not enough money and too much BS. Maybe I'm not a real expert but I would say I'm somewhat knowledgable on this. Oh, and yes I do watch the Fox News Channel.