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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Sounds a little like Parasomnia. Will listen to it today ...

Agree to some extent but with Dream Theater anything at this stage that is listenable is a massive bonus while IQ are coming off a generally acclaimed run of albums. Maybe my expectations are set too high but I find myself wondering what the point of this is. With DT they needed to reconnect with the fans. My other thought is that IQ have not had a line up change for 3 albums, maybe that's a problem as they are lacking any outside influence to change the formula. For me at least they played with the formula on Resistance but now it's just formula.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Sounds a little like Parasomnia. Will listen to it today ...


Agree to some extent but with Dream Theater anything at this stage that is listenable is a massive bonus while IQ are coming off a generally acclaimed run of albums. Maybe my expectations are set too high but I find myself wondering what the point of this is. With DT they needed to reconnect with the fans. My other thought is that IQ have not had a line up change for 3 albums, maybe that's a problem as they are lacking any outside influence to change the formula. For me at least they played with the formula on Resistance but now it's just formula.


Whereas for me they played around too much on Resistance and made it boring, but with Dominion they’ve gone back to what they were good at, and added a couple of new ingredients!☺️
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I pretty much only REALLY like Frequency out of their more recent releases, but I haven't listened to them extensively (with the exception being Frequency).

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I pretty much only REALLY like Frequency out of their more recent releases, but I haven't listened to them extensively (with the exception being Frequency).


Frequency is indeed a wonderful album. The 6-album run from Ever to Road Of Bones is just stunning….
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I pretty much only REALLY like Frequency out of their more recent releases, but I haven't listened to them extensively (with the exception being Frequency).

kind of figures as that has a much harder sound, more akin to metal at times.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I pretty much only REALLY like Frequency out of their more recent releases, but I haven't listened to them extensively (with the exception being Frequency).


kind of figures as that has a much harder sound, more akin to metal at times.


In which case Mike should definitely listen to Far From Here off Dominion….
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^ I definitely like heavier Neo Prog, or even Neo Prog Metal (Riverside comes to mind) - but there is a broad range of styles I enjoy, including very light and "non-heavy" stuff. Like I wrote on the previous page, I enjoyed listening to Dominion. What I really liked on Frequency was the songwriting, and I think that Dominion is a little weaker there. But that opinion might change on further listens.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I pretty much only REALLY like Frequency out of their more recent releases, but I haven't listened to them extensively (with the exception being Frequency).


kind of figures as that has a much harder sound, more akin to metal at times.


In which case Mike should definitely listen to Far From Here off Dominion….

or the better version 'A Missile' off Resistance Smile
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I definitely like heavier Neo Prog, or even Neo Prog Metal (Riverside comes to mind) - but there is a broad range of styles I enjoy, including very light and "non-heavy" stuff. Like I wrote on the previous page, I enjoyed listening to Dominion. What I really liked on Frequency was the songwriting, and I think that Dominion is a little weaker there. But that opinion might change on further listens.

Thumbs Up Frequency is a perfect album for me. The last time I saw IQ play live was around that time with Andy Edwards on drums. I suspect that I must have realised and processed the fact that they were never going to better than that.
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I am truly on the fence in terms of purchasing this album on vinyl.  I don't care to preview new releases on mp3, I tend to commit to wax or nothing.  Compressed mp3 bullsh*t is unacceptable to these ears.  

I loved Road of Bones and considered it their best since Dark Matter.  Resistance was not to my liking at all. It sounded like leftovers from Road of Bones the band didn't consider good enough to be on Road of Bones.  

To those who have spun Dominion....is this an evolution out of Road of Bones or is it Resistance-esque?

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Originally posted by Disconnect Disconnect wrote:

Compressed mp3 bullsh*t is unacceptable to these ears.
Have you tried lossless digital formats such as FLAC?
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Have you tried lossless digital formats such as FLAC?

I have, and though I know it is a lossless format, it is still digital.  There's a warmth to vinyl that puts you in the same room with the artist (if engineered/mastered properly).
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Originally posted by Disconnect Disconnect wrote:

I am truly on the fence in terms of purchasing this album on vinyl.  I don't care to preview new releases on mp3, I tend to commit to wax or nothing.  Compressed mp3 bullsh*t is unacceptable to these ears.  

I loved Road of Bones and considered it their best since Dark Matter.  Resistance was not to my liking at all. It sounded like leftovers from Road of Bones the band didn't consider good enough to be on Road of Bones.  

To those who have spun Dominion....is this an evolution out of Road of Bones or is it Resistance-esque?

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To me it sounds more like ROB-IQ then Resistance-IQ….
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Originally posted by Disconnect Disconnect wrote:

Compressed mp3 bullsh*t is unacceptable to these ears.  

Someone needs to cure these ears from the nocebo effect Smile

Originally posted by Disconnect Disconnect wrote:

There's a warmth to vinyl that puts you in the same room with the artist

And the placebo effect LOL


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Originally posted by Disconnect Disconnect wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Have you tried lossless digital formats such as FLAC?


I have, and though I know it is a lossless format, it is still digital.  There's a warmth to vinyl that puts you in the same room with the artist (if engineered/mastered properly).
What if I told you that most vinyl pressed today for years have been sourced from digital masters, very often mixed using DAWs and software VST plugins? :v
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

 
What if I told you that most vinyl pressed today for years have been sourced from digital masters, very often mixed using DAWs and software VST plugins? :v

Then I would tell you I am well aware of that fact and a vast majority of my vinyl collection are 1st pressings dating back to the late 60s.  I own & operate my own recording studio, and am quite familiar with all things relating to music production.  Smile

Perhaps I should clarify my earlier point by saying when in the role of a listener for personal enjoyment, it must be wax for me.  If I'm working in the studio on my own music or a customer's music - I obviously work digitally because in this day & age it is the most feasible approach to a profitable studio.


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There is nothing wrong with the streaming version of the album it's just that there is not a single new idea on it and it overall sounds recycled IQ. They were never the most original sounding band in truth and from Dark Matter onwards have barely pushed into new areas. I'm now even assessing how much I truly like them. Ever will certainly always be a favourite album , that will forever be true. 
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^ When you say "idea", are you talking about songwriting or about the general style/sound? Personally I don't mind when iconic bands stay close to their established sound, it is a big part of their identity and I wouldn't expect any band to do the chameleonesque type of shapeshifting that Steven Wilson does, for instance. For me it is mainly the songwriting, combined with the musicianship (how well they play) that makes or breaks an album.
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^everything really. I think they have become jaded as a band and for me started to become somewhat generic in approach from Dark Matter onwards. After that Martin Orford leaves and and with him a large does of the inspiration and music writing ability that their albums exhibited strongly. His 2 noughties solo releases are for me way more diverse and interesting than anything IQ did after Dark Matter and he even had a hand in creating the modern version of Big Big Train in some respects by utilising the vocal talents of Dave Longdon before Longdon became a full time member of that band. (although I'm perhaps reaching a bit on that!) The Road Of Bones was never that exciting as far as I'm concerned, the template for some of that album even being created some years before on the track Further Away from the classic Ever. There they had fortold a heavier metallic form of Neo Prog that became the thing it seems in the 00's'. Subterrannea was an incredible album although perhaps has not aged well while The Seventh House was the zenith of Nicholls lyric writing. Now I have no idea what this current album is about. Back in 1985 when I first heard IQ I was amazed at the sheer audicity of the band. Now its just hum de hum de hum 'meh' stock generic production and playing. Someone called it 'auto-pilot' and that seems sadly apt. Sounds like a band that has no idea how to advance and is desparate not to upset its core fan base. IMO
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