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For example I haven't heard the live albums by ELP, Camel (first one), Jethro Tull, Marillion, hardly any live Rush after Exit Stage Left and others.
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I honestly can't think of any other than King Crimson's USA.


You know, with both Fracture and Starless added on to the Reissue, a decent album is made here... eventually. The sound quality is pretty good, the interpretations of several tracks sufficiently varied, the addition of non-album track Asbury Park gives added value, and the performance of Starless in particular sends shivers down your spine... while it may not be a classic, I feel far from the sort of 'short changed' feeling that Earthbound left me with?? 
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Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

Caravan music doesn't seem to fit well with an orchestra, in my opinion, so I prefer The Best of Caravan "Live" (also known as Live at Fairfield Hall), which was first released in France and features those early Caravan songs like The Love in Your Eye, For Richard, and others. The quality of the recording is good.

I personally prefer Fairfield Halls over Symphonia.. I believe the latter was a bit rushed and under-rehearsed. It's a shame they didn't release the former at the time instead, however I would have liked a little more included from Waterloo Lily?
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jethro Tull were obviously a great live band but I'm not aware of a live album that captures them in their classic era. 

I've always thought 'Bursting Out' to be a very strong live offering; full of energetic performances, well recorded and having been released on the Heals of HH, arguably just at the right time for the band? You could say it's a bit 'greatest hits' but I don't feel there's anything wrong with that, and the versions of TaaB and Aqualung are really good... when I think of bands who have underwhelmed in terms of a live document during the peak of their career, I couldn't could JT among them?
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

I've always thought 'Bursting Out' to be a very strong live offering; full of energetic performances, well recorded and having been released on the Heals of HH, arguably just at the right time for the band? You could say it's a bit 'greatest hits' but I don't feel there's anything wrong with that, and the versions of TaaB and Aqualung are really good... when I think of bands who have underwhelmed in terms of a live document during the peak of their career, I couldn't could JT among them?


An iconic live album by the best line-up, made even better by the 2004 expanded reissue.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

For example I haven't heard the live albums by ELP, Camel (first one), Jethro Tull, Marillion, hardly any live Rush after Exit Stage Left and others.





To you and me, that whole list represents the basics, but I guess it could be generational and we all listen to different things... I mean, I've heard less than 10% of the stuff Greg puts in his polls, for instance!
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

To you and me, that whole list represents the basics, but I guess it could be generational and we all listen to different things... I mean, I've heard less than 10% of the stuff Greg puts in his polls, for instance!


Mike's in our age bracket. I guess he's just really taking his time getting around to hearing certain albums. I thought everyone had heard Welcome Back, My Friends by now.

I need to hear more of the stuff Greg's polls consist of. In most cases, I've heard some but not enough.
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Deep Purple - Made in Japan
Renaissance - Live At Carnegie Hall
Camel - A live record
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5 Live Albums:

Henry Cow - Concerts
ELP - Welcome Back...
Yes - Yessongs
Genesis - Live
Zappa - Roxy

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For this I read, 'cynical cashing in' so:

ELP - Works Vol. 2 (I love ELP but...)
Gong - Live Etc. (released without the band's approval)
Yes - Yesterdays (just to give us 'America')
Zappa - Studio Tan etc. (record company machinations - Zappa wanted 'Lather')
Rush - Exit Stage Left (pointless)
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jethro Tull were obviously a great live band but I'm not aware of a live album that captures them in their classic era. 


I've always thought 'Bursting Out' to be a very strong live offering; full of energetic performances, well recorded and having been released on the Heals of HH, arguably just at the right time for the band? You could say it's a bit 'greatest hits' but I don't feel there's anything wrong with that, and the versions of TaaB and Aqualung are really good... when I think of bands who have underwhelmed in terms of a live document during the peak of their career, I couldn't could JT among them?


I actually feel that Bursting Out along with Live at Knebworth together have nearly all their best songs in their best versions.
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I wished ELO had made a better live album of their earlier material, say after Eldorado. 
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For my money the only show I would pay to watch ELO would be the really early stuff they did with Roy Wood, which was crazy and fun ... later, ELO became about the "hits" and just a nice easy listening experience, and not that great musically. If none of their work had become a hit, no one would have paid attention. And after watching a few minutes of their recent shows, I turned off two of them after 15 minutes! BORING!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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For my money the only show I would pay to watch ELO would be the really early stuff they did with Roy Wood, which was crazy and fun ... later, ELO became about the "hits" and just a nice easy listening experience, and not that great musically. If none of their work had become a hit, no one would have paid attention. And after watching a few minutes of their recent shows, I turned off two of them after 15 minutes! BORING!

Each to their own... Roy of course was only on the debut; he left during the writing stage for ELO II, leaving Jeff & Co to cobble something together and to my mind, they didn't do a bad job, although I'd be happy not to have to hear Roll Over again... Sorry, but Third Day and Eldorado are both very good, although there was a change from Cellos towards Violins of course... they are both still very progressive and concept driven art rock albums... it's from Face The Music onwards they became 'all about the hits' in my view, which is where I lose my interest. If they had recorded a decent live double album after Eldorado, rather than the apology of 'The Night The Light...', then I'd have been considerably happier.
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Whether the "album" was part of a film or not, it will be listed,  but excluding the BBC-type of Archives that weren't released for decades



Special entries (containing all new material unavailable before in studio albums)

ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition
Tangerine Dream – Ricochet & Encore
Badger- One Live Badger
Mahavisnu Orchestra - Between Nothingness and Eternity

 

Prog live albums

Pink Floyd - Umma (Gumma is not live) or Pompeii
Argent - Encore
Jethro Tull - Nothing Is Easy: The Isle of Wight, 1970.
Genesis – Seconds Out
King Crimson - USA (and Earthbound 40th anniv remaster)
Rush - All The World's A Stage
Grobschnitt - Solar Music Live
Procol Harum - Edmonton Symphony Orchestra
Genesis - Seconds Out
Santana - Lotus
Magma - Hhaï/Live
Chicago - Carbegie Hall
Massacre - Killing Time
GG - Playing The Fool
VdGG - Vital
Gong Live, Etc



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Pat Travers Band - Go For What You Knowx
Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush - Live (78)
Purple - Made In Japan & Made In Europe
Song Remains the Same
BÖC - Some Enchanted Evening (expanded with filmed concert)
Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense
U2 - Rattle & Hum (hybrid movie)
Wishbone Ash - Live Dates
Who - Live At Leeds (expanded)
ABB - Fillmore East
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Live Rust/Rust Never Sleeps
Dr Feelgood - Stupidity
Live Dead
Miles - Live-Evil


I probably forget some



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Camel - A live record 
I have seen Camel several times. Always loved them live. The Live Record has a good selection of material and great versions of some tracks. The Never Let Go version is one of my all time favourite performances. Still, I think the atmosphere of the album suffers from its patchwork character. Not only different gigs are combined but even different tours, with quite different sounds (older material sounding clearly worse), and little coherence, other than of course The Snow Goose listened to on its own. The greatest live albums are more than the sum of their parts. This one isn't, for me, I'm afraid, despite the great parts.


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Deep Purple - Made in Japan. You literally do not have to buy another Purple album if you have this one. The songs are superior to the studio versions in every case.

Jethro Tull - Nothing Is Easy: The Isle of Wight, 1970. Perhaps not as technically brilliant as their later Bursting Out live album, but this one is about as spastic a live prog album as you can get. And the videos are even better and heighten the madness of that Tull era. A rock band at the cusp of superstardom.

Genesis - Seconds Out. The band steps out from the shadow of Peter Gabriel, and performs a technically brilliant live recording. Kudos to both Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford for their accompaniment with Phil Collins on the drums.

Procol Harum - Live in Concert with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra. Just brilliant renditions of Procol compositions topped off by the magnificent "Conquistador", perhaps the best rock/orchestra collab of all. 

Frank Zappa - You Can't Do that on Stage Anymore (Volumes 1, 2 and 3, 1988/89). A Zappa pastiche of Zappa live from the 1970s. Includes the magnificently hilarious Helsinki "Montana (Whipping Floss)", "The Yellow Snow Suite", "Cozmik Debris (Lone Ranger version)" and a grand "Inca Roads."







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Can Live in Paris 1973 (2024)
Kraan Live (1975)
Gong Live, Etc (1977) 
Uriah Heep Live (1973)
The Doors Absolutely Live (1970)
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Special entries (containing all new material unavailable before in studio albums)

ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition
Tangerine Dream – Ricochet & Encore
Badger- One Live Badger
Mahavisnu Orchestra - Between Nothingness and Eternity


you are spoilt for choice with TD in this department... Ricochet, Encore, Quichotte, Logos, Poland, LiveMiles to name but six?

I think MO remedied that situ with the Lost Trident Sessions?

I'll throw in: Anyone's Daughter: Piktors Verwandlungen & Rick Wakeman: Journey Centre Earth



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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Special entries (containing all new material unavailable before in studio albums)

ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition
Tangerine Dream – Ricochet & Encore
Badger- One Live Badger
Mahavisnu Orchestra - Between Nothingness and Eternity

you are spoilt for choice with TD in this department... Ricochet, Encore, Quichotte, Logos, Poland, LiveMiles to name but six?

I think MO remedied that situ with the Lost Trident Sessions?

I'll throw in: Anyone's Daughter: Piktors Verwandlungen & Rick Wakeman: Journey Centre Earth



those three are still somewhat interesting (better than the contemporary studio lbums for sure), but they came during the Schmoeling era, which was definitely a let down compared to the Frantze & Baumann era.

Yess, but ultimately, I prefer the live version of the Lost Trident studio sessions

Haven't heard the former, and wish I'd never heard the latter LOL


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Camel - A live record 

I have seen Camel several times. Always loved them live. The Live Record has a good selection of material and great versions of some tracks. The Never Let Go version is one of my all time favourite performances. Still, I think the atmosphere of the album suffers from its patchwork character. Not only different gigs are combined but even different tours, with quite different sounds (older material sounding clearly worse), and little coherence, other than of course The Snow Goose listened to on its own. The greatest live albums are more than the sum of their parts. This one isn't, for me, I'm afraid, despite the great parts.



A Live Record is still the only version I have of The Snow Goose, and I really like it, and I don't find anything wrong with the way it sounds. And Overall I do like the album, but I guess you are right about it featuring songs from different tours and even line-ups.
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Deep Purple - Made in Japan. You literally do not have to buy another Purple album if you have this one. The songs are superior to the studio versions in every case.

Jethro Tull - Nothing Is Easy: The Isle of Wight, 1970. Perhaps not as technically brilliant as their later Bursting Out live album, but this one is about as spastic a live prog album as you can get. And the videos are even better and heighten the madness of that Tull era. A rock band at the cusp of superstardom.

Genesis - Seconds Out. The band steps out from the shadow of Peter Gabriel, and performs a technically brilliant live recording. Kudos to both Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford for their accompaniment with Phil Collins on the drums.

Procol Harum - Live in Concert with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra. Just brilliant renditions of Procol compositions topped off by the magnificent "Conquistador", perhaps the best rock/orchestra collab of all. 

Frank Zappa - You Can't Do that on Stage Anymore (Volumes 1, 2 and 3, 1988/89). A Zappa pastiche of Zappa live from the 1970s. Includes the magnificently hilarious Helsinki "Montana (Whipping Floss)", "The Yellow Snow Suite", "Cozmik Debris (Lone Ranger version)" and a grand "Inca Roads."








I enjoy Seconds Out, but I do wish they hadn't mixed the guitars so low. Also, I wish they had featured the whole album with Brufford, and that they had the whole versions of the incomplete songs they played from the classic era (Firth of Fifth included, since it is missing the piano intro). And even more fantasy wishing, that they had actually gotten a flute player for the parts it should have been used... Steve Hackett even had a brother that played the flute, he might just as well have been able to take the part.
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