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Another good one Tongue
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I need to be clear about past and future recommendations.  If it's too conventional, I'm not going to tag it as neo-prog.  And I'm specifically looking for neo-prog.  Several of the last few recs had too many albums that just didn't make the cut.  I don't want to get into this genre to listen to AOR.  If it's not neo-prog, I'll tag it as AOR, pop rock, maybe art rock at best.

Right now, as pretty as this Violet Hour album is, I'm on track 4 and there's barely anything proggy about it, just artsy.  I can't keep taking recommendations if they're not going to actually work.  So if you recommended an album that doesn't fit this standard, then please re-evaluate your recommendations.  If not, I'll have to stick with the top RYM charts and take a gamble (Fish hasn't been working out either).  To give you an idea of what qualifies as neo-prog do me:

Script for a Jester's Tear, Fugazi and Clutching at Straws: Yes.
Misplaced Childhood: No.

It NEEDS to be proggy.  Considering all the pop rock and AOR I've come across, King Crimson / Yes proggy is preferred.
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Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

I need to be clear about past and future recommendations.  If it's too conventional, I'm not going to tag it as neo-prog.  And I'm specifically looking for neo-prog.  Several of the last few recs had too many albums that just didn't make the cut.  I don't want to get into this genre to listen to AOR.  If it's not neo-prog, I'll tag it as AOR, pop rock, maybe art rock at best.

Right now, as pretty as this Violet Hour album is, I'm on track 4 and there's barely anything proggy about it, just artsy.  I can't keep taking recommendations if they're not going to actually work.  So if you recommended an album that doesn't fit this standard, then please re-evaluate your recommendations.
The Violet Hour is listed on this site database as a Neo Prog band, where they indeed historically belonged, because as an early 90s progressive rock band, they were still an act of the original British neo-progressive rock movement and even toured with Marillion. I recommended their sole album from 1991 because you asked for "very diversified neo-prog albums." Otherwise, I wouldn't have recommended The Violet Hour, a female-fronted band whose awesome stuff sounds a lot like a blend of the approach of various acts, such as the late 60s Beatles, late 70s Genesis & Pink Floyd, and Marillion, even with elements of gothic folk, and hence showcases enough diversity to give them a unique sound. 
Sorry, but The Violet Hour recommendation fits the opening post request as you set it.



Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

To give you an idea of what qualifies as neo-prog do me:

Script for a Jester's Tear, Fugazi and Clutching at Straws: Yes.
Misplaced Childhood: No.

It NEEDS to be proggy. 
It's okay, but your own request to "please recommend very diversified neo-prog albums" is actually in disagreement with that. You should have pointed out that you search for, say, "the proggiest of very proggy neo-prog."

I never said "the proggiest."  I said it needs to be diverse, and it needs to be actual prog, not this no-imagination overly-accessible AOR stuff inaccurately lumped in the same scene because "synths."  It completely ruined Twelfth Night as a band.  The tag is obviously widely abused at this point. Now this Violet Hour album is quite good and beautiful, but I'm labelling it "art rock" and maybe "folk rock."

All the pop rock stuff is starting to disillusion me from the genre again.  I really do need it to be at least as proggy as the three Marillion albums I mentioned up there, or at least as much as Magenta's Revolution.


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Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

To give you an idea of what qualifies as neo-prog do me:

Script for a Jester's Tear, Fugazi and Clutching at Straws: Yes.
Misplaced Childhood: No

Childhood is literally a concept album with several suite-like songs on it (one of these is 9 minutes long btw), with its third single being mostly in 5/4. If this is not prog I don't know what is!

Arguably, Clutching is less proggy simply by being Childhood's carbon copy structurally but with less captivating songwriting
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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

To give you an idea of what qualifies as neo-prog do me:

Script for a Jester's Tear, Fugazi and Clutching at Straws: Yes.
Misplaced Childhood: No

Childhood is literally a concept album with several suite-like songs on it (one of these is 9 minutes long btw), with its third single being mostly in 5/4. If this is not prog I don't know what is!

Arguably, Clutching is less proggy simply by being Childhood's carbon copy structurally but with less captivating songwriting

I'm going for a specific behavior that encompasses the instruments as well, not just the album layout.  One element shared with prog doesn't qualify the entire whole.  If you're gonna call yourself progressive, progress.  Being a concept album only means you're a concept album.  Nothing more.  I'm not going to introduce someone to prog through something even poppier than Invisible Touch.  And for the record, Clutching had some more prog tendencies.  I listened to all four and several Hogarth Marillion albums this over the last several weeks.


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Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

 I'm not going to introduce someone to prog through something even poppier than Invisible Touch.  .

I don't know if this is just a hot take or simply baiting and trolling. Confused

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

 I'm not going to introduce someone to prog through something even poppier than Invisible Touch.  .

I don't know if this is just a hot take or simply baiting and trolling. Confused


Among other music forums I preside, I'm known for my hot takes.  All I really want is something that balances out proggy with variety.  If I can't get that, I'm gonna cancel to neo-prog for now and stick with symphonic for the time being.  I plan on possibly getting through the whole Wobbler catalogue today.
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These is a lot of modern symph prog that isn't particularly diverse and arguably even some of the classic era releases don't always do that. Wobbler are great but their music is set on doing one thing very well. If you want keyboards, keyboards and more keyboards then great. I remember though listening to Hinterland and feeling like I was being bashed over the head with mellotron (if that's even a thing). The Lars Fredrick Froislie (the keyboard man from Wobbler) album from 2023 is probably better than Wobbler for being a bit more diverse and embracing the more folkier aspect of Norwegian prog that Wobbler sometimes leaves behind in its attempt to be the new Yes and then there are those Chronicles Of Father Robin albums that are a lot more fun imo.
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