Rick Beato - Thoughts

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 Catcher10 wrote:

 miamiscot wrote:

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My next episode: "Why Peter Gabriel Hates me."

(Taken from another thread ... but it fits better on its own)

This is a bunch of ideas/comments on how/what I think of Rick Beato. AND some of the guests I would like to see him do!
Hi,

I don't dislike him, although I think that sometimes he is doing a band or someone just to be cool, and not meaningful. Maybe it is my tastes have changed over the years, but there are times when I think his guests are not as valuable or important as they think themselves to be, and (they know!) are getting one more tinkle with fairy's dust of attention.

I kinda think that PG would make for a really boring show, with overblown stuff about the meaning of some of his work. And in his MM article taking several pages when he left Genesis, he has forgotten why he left ... conveniently, because he also got big. But other things could be discussed like his attention to other musics and works, which he does not use in his own bunch of songs, many of which feel like a redo, and not important or valuable. I think, that PG has outlived his ability and time ... and to just recreate what was done before is not original, and neither is it creative, though his ego would demand the attention to the "creativity" and its appreciation. Not a good guest in my book.

Some folks that would be much more interesting ... 

Manfred Mann, but I think that Manfred would roast him to pieces, for simply being a kisser to "fame", and sometimes, not a student of the music itself. 

Roy Harper would be a nice one to do, before he passes away, for his insane talent in song and words, even though it now seems to come up dated somewhat but not out of time and place. Poets like him never fail to deliver and he likely would make Rick ... be out of place, and not in tune with the work at all. Others that really deserve some attention, but never will get it ... 

Mike Heron and Robin Williamson ... both extremely creative minds, and Robin can tell you the history of things like only Eno has done in his book. Mike, is probably more reclusive, but a massive creative mind ... and it feels to me that he has left the music business because it isn't about the poetry or the words ... specially these days with the Internet when no one reads, and no one knows what was said! We have to be careful here, since RW can be a bit of a clown, and often sings like it, too, which is worth a discussion ... I think that for him, it's about the acting and making the piece come alive with it. Mike is more reserved and probably word centered ... but it's hard to imagine that he has gone 20/30 years without writing a poem, or saying hello to anybody ...!!!

Maddy Prior ... probably deserves a go, but I'm not sure that RB is keen on too many women, that are sometimes too smart and special. 

Kate Bush would be a good show, but I think she's too self conscious in front of the camera and not looking good enough for her tastes. Her talking about how she created some things and fought for others ... would make a fantastic piece ... though some might think of her as spoiled and boring. Her not releasing the videos from her recent London shows, is really likely she thought she was over weight and not looking good enough to make the show even more special, as compared to some of her previous materials and films.

Toyah Wilcox would be nice, if she could get away from RF long enough to discuss her own thing, and how she came about in film and theater, and then music. She has said some nice things about Derek Jarman, but none of us are sure what it is that she was saying ... as most of us have never seen anything of his, to even get any ideas. Toyah was a minor character in his films, but the artistic influence is there somewhat, though these days, when you see her, it's starting to feel sad, and just asking for attention so it could sell another album! And while RF is ok, in general, I would prefer that he had his own thing, but it has already been done in the movie and I'm not sure RF wants to do that again. And, btw, he looks very bored playing guitar on his wife's pieces ... that is bad. Very bad!

Even though it is late, and they might be too old to bother with it, Grace Slick would be nice, and she probably has juicy stories if she's inclined to say anything about them ... her self titled book was ... lacking badly ... and felt like she didn't care for the attention.

There aren't many left from the SF days, to say a whole lot ... we have allowed many of them to go away to their universal address ... and we only have the lyrics from many songs, left behind ... 

The LA music scene, if there are enough folks left, since the great FM Radio Rape of the late 1970's in LA ... because they did not want to give attention to many bands that won the court case for air time. The FCC had a way out by the station changing hands (right!!! what a crock!) and then changing the formats. And many of us thought that Radio Kaos was a joke ... it wasn't. But we all ignored it all ... and then some!

The imports, and how they all came alive in the early 70's in Southern California and possibly NY and some places in the Midwest ... many European bands ended up being known in America from it. But the folks left to discuss the "imports" are just about gone, and I'm not sure that Archie Patterson would bother ... he already said what he had to say in his periodicals going back to 1970, and then the release of the book of all the periodicals. But he was a massive mover, in that area and then some, even though I think he would think it embarrassing, and state that it was the music that mattered to him!

All in all, I think it ends up getting into the history of what became ... Progressive Music. Well, at least the kind we don't believe in anymore because it has no format and violates the very definition of the whole idea by folks that don't like music much!