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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 15:11
Originally posted by Sweetnighter Sweetnighter wrote:

Yes'm, I can read and write sheet music.

I hate these music theory classes they have out there... they always teach music theory from the classical perspective. Honestly, they teach melodic, harmonic, and natural minor scales/key and never teach dorian. 99% of contemporary music that you hear on the radio that employs a minor scale employs dorian minors. Just kills me. If you want to learn comtemporary music theory, LEARN JAZZ. Major, dorian minor, and dominant keys are crucial, for composing and improvising. The best composers are master improvisers, take my word for it.


OK...
So what's the lowdown on mixolydian "mode" ...
I mean, the difference between dorian & mixolydian...Or does it matter ?






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:00

Mixolydian:

tone, tone, semi, tone, tone, semi, tone

Or:

tonic, major second, major third, perfect fourth, perfect fifth, major sixth, flattened seventh, octave

Or all the white/natural notes starting on G

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:05

Dorian:

tone, semi, tone, tone, tone, semi, tone

Or:

tonic, major second, minor third, perfect fourth, perfect fifth, major sixth, flattened seventh, octave

Or all the white/natural notes starting on D

 

The first two bits might not be right, but they can be worked out from the third, which is right. In practical terms, the Dorian can be seen as the "minor version" of the Mixolydian, although that's simplifying matters slightly.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 02:10

In other words, these modes are simply scales started on notes other than the 1st note of the scale.

In the two cases above, dorian=the 2nd note of the scale and mixolydian=the 5th.

It's not a big deal - it's just convenient labels

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 13:57
I can.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 22:03

i can do both as well

you say you've played 40 years without knowing, but isn't that a beautiful thing? it's awesome how one can know nothing in terms of musical theory but still play..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2005 at 02:39
Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Mixolydian:

tone, tone, semi, tone, tone, semi, tone

Or:

tonic, major second, major third, perfect fourth, perfect fifth, major sixth, flattened seventh, octave

Or all the white/natural notes starting on G

mmmmm mixolydian, reading music is like reading a book its just a new way of looking at it.  I've been reading and writing music for the last 13 years now.  The real pain is on the spot transposing

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2005 at 06:32

Learned when I was 8/9 years old and forgot.But,everytime I'm shown how to read I get the gist usually by being shown where C is on the manuscript.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2005 at 13:53
reading sheet is easy to learn and easy to do. the hard part is doing it on sight. that is, doing it fluently, like reading a book. i can read sheet, i just have to decipher each note one at a time. that is not true reading,IMO. the thing is though, yu who admired those who write more than those who read, writing music is easier than reading it. because yu already know the notes and there is no deadline of timing yu dont have to be fluent to write. it's easy! wish i could read well enough to play the song while im doing it though!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2005 at 17:00
never bothered to learn - have no inclination to do so.
Admittedly it would be handy but I don't see that it
would broaden my ability to play in any way.

Then again, I haven't got a clue about the proper
names of half the stuff I play, i tend to do everything
by ear working it out on guitar transferring it to keys
and so forth. It's probably a little labour intensive but
to me always feels like new territory and that's a
good thing!

It also prompts me occasionallly to step way outside
the box in accompaniments and that's always
interesting.

Playing with others I just show them how I'm framing
stuff and let them apply the theory! Lazy bastard!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2005 at 11:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 20:38

Yup, I read sheet music. And of course, I'm a keyboard player.

My bit of advice is that you should learn. It is very useful in the music world.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 08:28

I read and write but learned it rather late (mid 20 something). And, I'm a guitar player

Sure, it's not necessary to read/write to be a good musician but it certainly helps and makes life easier. I would probably not have been able to play Bach's lute music without the knowledge of reading music. And, it's so much easier to talk to other musicians and get your ideas across (you don't have to sit in front of people showing/playing what you want them to play).

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 08:55

I had piano lessons from an early age, so I've always been able to read it.  But I don't think it affects your ability to play or write good music.  Friends who can't read music are better musicians and composers than I could ever hope to be.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2005 at 04:14
I can read music...it's the beginning for everyone who want to have good basis
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 23:12
I can to an extent. With practice (something you dont get alot as a drummer) i get better (as everyone should). I (attempt) to play piano to keep up with my sheet music reading skills. But, i have written some pieces, not all that good though .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2005 at 01:32
I used to spend a lot of time just reading tablature before I became a classical guitarist. I feel that I've caught onto the reading fairly well now. It's opened a lot of doors for me. Sight reading through a piece is like sitting down and reading a book.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2005 at 09:31

I can, although I'm not very good, but I'm too lazy to use it. I see no fun in playing songs that aren't mine on a sheet. I prefer to improvise and write stuff, I like to creat something, that's music. But I got that feel I really need to get into it to progress, but well...

I am the only violonist that I know that do not read well music sheets. I am also the only guy I know who play violin, a coincidence... I guess...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2005 at 09:35
I can´t read sh*t Music. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2005 at 09:57

Originally posted by Guests Guests wrote:

reading sheet is easy to learn and easy to do. the hard part is doing it on sight. that is, doing it fluently, like reading a book. i can read sheet, i just have to decipher each note one at a time. that is not true reading,IMO. the thing is though, yu who admired those who write more than those who read, writing music is easier than reading it. because yu already know the notes and there is no deadline of timing yu dont have to be fluent to write. it's easy! wish i could read well enough to play the song while im doing it though!

There is also a difference in just reading it and immediately knowing which key of a keyboard (for example) or which fret and string on a guitar it is associated with. I mean not knowing "Oh yeah, that's a G, now where is that on the keyboard?", but just putting your finger on the key just like this, without even thinking about the fact that it is actually a "G" you are playing..



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