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    Posted: March 03 2025 at 19:12
Has anyone noticed something odd about Steven Wilson's "Hand. Cannot. Erase." and Soft Machine's "Seven"?




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Ideas are everywhere! Wilson’s sure looks a lot better to me.
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While both covers may look similar at first glance, both are representing different music genres and eras—Seven is embracing a bold abstraction characteristic of the vitality to be discovered in the colourful '70s jazz rock, and the other a minimalism that underscores awfully overrated yet boring alt-rock pseudo-intellectualism of the '10s. Normally, I prefer Seven, both music and art.
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Sort of like the difference between a rough draft and the final product.
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Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

While both covers may look similar at first glance, both are representing different music genres and eras—Seven is embracing a bold abstraction characteristic of the vitality to be discovered in the colourful '70s jazz rock, and the other a minimalism that underscores awfully overrated yet boring alt-rock pseudo-intellectualism of the '10s. Normally, I prefer Seven, both music and art.

Ah, there's nothing like coming back to the PA forum to read something interesting, only to stumble upon a nasty fart by an arrogant prog snob LOL
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

While both covers may look similar at first glance, both are representing different music genres and eras—Seven is embracing a bold abstraction characteristic of the vitality to be discovered in the colourful '70s jazz rock, and the other a minimalism that underscores awfully overrated yet boring alt-rock pseudo-intellectualism of the '10s. Normally, I prefer Seven, both music and art.

Ah, there's nothing like coming back to the PA forum to read something interesting, only to stumble upon a nasty fart by an arrogant prog snob LOL
Thanks for noticing! I was just trying to elevate the conversation beyond 'basic.' But hey, we all have our strengths LOL
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^ mission accomplished! But of course this was bound to happen, as this thread pits old versus new. I can sort of see your point except for the "intellectualism" part, don't hear that on HCE. But the upcoming SW release is all about that, so you should have a field day with it!
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Originally posted by Sunburst Sunburst wrote:

Sort of like the difference between a rough draft and the final product.
Tormato, for instance, has a better sleeve design that features a damaged cover photo than HCE.
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Quote While both covers may look similar at first glance, both are representing different music genres and eras—Seven is embracing a bold abstraction characteristic of the vitality to be discovered in the colourful '70s jazz rock, and the other a minimalism that underscores awfully overrated yet boring alt-rock pseudo-intellectualism of the '10s. Normally, I prefer Seven, both music and art.
This statement, for some reason, reminds me of the kind of blanket word salads LLM AI bots would barf out. xD

Anyway, this "bust facing sideways" type of cover is one of the biggest clichés not only in prog but in rock in general.


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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote While both covers may look similar at first glance, both are representing different music genres and eras—Seven is embracing a bold abstraction characteristic of the vitality to be discovered in the colourful '70s jazz rock, and the other a minimalism that underscores awfully overrated yet boring alt-rock pseudo-intellectualism of the '10s. Normally, I prefer Seven, both music and art.
This statement, for some reason, reminds me of the kind of blanket word salads LLM AI bots would barf out. xD

Anyway, this "bust facing sideways" type of cover is one of the biggest clichés not only in prog but in rock in general.
Oh wow, thanks for your incredibly valuable input! I'll make sure to file it right under ‘Ignored’ in my imaginary filing cabinet.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote While both covers may look similar at first glance, both are representing different music genres and eras—Seven is embracing a bold abstraction characteristic of the vitality to be discovered in the colourful '70s jazz rock, and the other a minimalism that underscores awfully overrated yet boring alt-rock pseudo-intellectualism of the '10s. Normally, I prefer Seven, both music and art.
This statement, for some reason, reminds me of the kind of blanket word salads LLM AI bots would barf out. xD

Anyway, this "bust facing sideways" type of cover is one of the biggest clichés not only in prog but in rock in general.

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Originally posted by Sunburst Sunburst wrote:

Has anyone noticed something odd about Steven Wilson's "Hand. Cannot. Erase." and Soft Machine's "Seven"?


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Nothing new or peculiar in this thread. The Egyptians set the standard ages ago:


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I'd argue there are more similarities than only people in profile. The colour palettes – purple/pink and silver/grey – bear an undeniable resemblance.

At any rate, when it finally occurred to me to put both side by side, I wondered if it is a deliberate nod to SM or just a prank pulled by uncanny chance. I prefer to think it's a homage, but a freaky coincidence would also make me chuckle.
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Originally posted by Sunburst Sunburst wrote:

I'd argue there are more similarities than only people in profile. The colour palettes – purple/pink and silver/grey – bear an undeniable resemblance.

At any rate, when it finally occurred to me to put both side by side, I wondered if it is a deliberate nod to SM or just a prank pulled by uncanny chance. I prefer to think it's a homage, but a freaky coincidence would also make me chuckle.
In terms of execution, covers of HEC and Seven really don't have much in common (beyond the fact that they both depict facial profiles) since the HEC cover is a combination of photography and paint application, while the cover of Seven is entirely painted illustration; the HEC sleeve design doesn't feature the album title and band name, while the Seven does.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote meAsoi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2025 at 01:42
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Nothing new or peculiar in this thread. The Egyptians set the standard ages ago:


Sure, we all know that the ancient Egyptians depicted heads in profile on their wall art; however, unlike, for example, the cover of Cecil Taylor Jazz Unit's Nefertiti, The Beautiful One Has Come, the Seven and HEC covers are certainly not inspired by ancient Egyptian art.


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