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Mostly Autumn are great if you like female vocals and Gilmour-esque guitar work. Their latest album Seawater is very good although it goes in one ear and out the other a bit for me. It's very polished though like all their work.
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[QUOTE=rushfan4]Are you familiar with Mostly Autumn?  They are listed here on PA as Prog Folk, but I consider them to be neo-prog. 
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I'll check out a few of their songs to see if they fit the bill once I'm done with these recs.  Right now, I need to prepare myself for the new IQ as well, so in the middle of getting these recs sorted out, I need to listen to some more IQ and re-evaluate Subterranea later.
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Are you familiar with Mostly Autumn?  They are listed here on PA as Prog Folk, but I consider them to be neo-prog. 
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ So glad you appreciated Solstice's Silent Dance. :) Thanks for listening and commenting. I am very much a folky at heart so it's not surprising that it connected with me.

I've actually been waiting for neo-prog that steers into the folksier side of things.  It's been a key component to prog's variety since In the Court.

Btw, Solstice #2: New Life.

It may be a shame that the old singer left during the 9-year silence, but this woman's still a damn good singer with a Kate Bush presence.  It sounds like they've fleshed out a proper sound for themselves, a brand of neo-prog that's violin-based and mature.  Of course, there I'm not sure this is neo.  Synths are largely absent in place of violins.  I could be wrong on that, as I'm still fairly new.  Only heard about 40 neo albums so far, but if I'm wrong about that, please let me know because I'd like to learn as much as possible about neo-prog before I get tired with it and move onto something else.
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^ So glad you appreciated Solstice's Silent Dance. :) Thanks for listening and commenting. I am very much a folky at heart so it's not surprising that it connected with me.
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Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

I've been focussing on neo-prog for the last few months myself too. Really because it is so diverse and most of it sounds nothing like Marillion, IQ etc (though I do like those bands).  You could just start flicking through the neo-prog top 100 list and see what clicks with you, it's what I did. In saying all that these are the bands I've really enjoyed recently: Drifting Sun, Nine Skies, Believe, Barock Project, This Winter Machine, Cosmograf, Huis, Galahd, Collage, Comedy of Errors. That's a lot of music there, so from each you may want to try:

Drifting Sun - On the Rebound            France/UK
Nine Skies - The Lightmaker              France
Believe - Yesterdays Friend              Poland
Barock Project - Coffee In Neukölln      Italy
This Winter Machine - The Clockwork Man  UK
Cosmograf - Rattrapante                  UK
Huis - In the Face of the Unknown        Canada
Galahad - Beyond the Realms of Euphoria  UK
Collage - Moonshine                      Poland                     
Comedy of Errors - Fanfare & Fantasy     UK

Thanks a bunch!  With this my activity will be doubled, so I'd better blow through this forum's recommendations.

UPDATE: Edge - Suction 8

OK, wow.  Just utterly beautiful.  Every song tends to tackle much of the same genres present, but there are quite a few of them: folk, jazz, prog pop, goth rock, it's just an utter orchestra of glorious and magical unpredictability.  It might be slightly disjointed at times, but it never gets too far in the way of the magic.  That's not even the best part: the lead singer sounds almost exactly like one of my favorite female singers: Siouxsie.  This whole album is basically what would happen if the Banshees went neo-prog, and I was taken in as easily as I was with Hyaena.  I'm so pissed that not only did they only have one more album after this, but it's not even neo.  93.5/100, same league as King Crimson's Nightwatch live album, Banco's Garofano rosso and Quella's Il tempo della gioia.

Solstice - Silent Dance

Wow!  These people absolutely adore the classic folk rock of the 60's and 70's.  The singer sounds exactly like she came from that era.  The band's focused entirely on the folksy prog experience right here, and it's easy to get drawn into.  Unfortunately, it gets in the way of melodies developing properly, so the band didn't reach their full potential here.  Still great, but needs that fixed.  I'll be checking out more Solstice today.  87/100, same league as Soft Machine's Bundles, Banco's di terra and Mike Oldfields Amarok.

Major thanks to Hosydi and Logan for their recommendations!  These are the best two so far!
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I've been focussing on neo-prog for the last few months myself too. Really because it is so diverse and most of it sounds nothing like Marillion, IQ etc (though I do like those bands).  You could just start flicking through the neo-prog top 100 list and see what clicks with you, it's what I did. In saying all that these are the bands I've really enjoyed recently: Drifting Sun, Nine Skies, Believe, Barock Project, This Winter Machine, Cosmograf, Huis, Galahd, Collage, Comedy of Errors. That's a lot of music there, so from each you may want to try:

Drifting Sun - On the Rebound            France/UK
Nine Skies - The Lightmaker              France
Believe - Yesterdays Friend              Poland
Barock Project - Coffee In Neukölln      Italy
This Winter Machine - The Clockwork Man  UK
Cosmograf - Rattrapante                  UK
Huis - In the Face of the Unknown        Canada
Galahad - Beyond the Realms of Euphoria  UK
Collage - Moonshine                      Poland                     
Comedy of Errors - Fanfare & Fantasy     UK


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Alright: Sanguin Hum

There are SOME synths to it, especially in the ending epic, but not enough to really be a major focus and cement the genre for me.  Not very diversified, either.  Actually, it feels a bit more like post-Seasons End Marillion to me, where they got more artistic with atmospheres.  Having said that, it's easy to see why this album would be liked.  It's a nicely done atmospheric album with the same emotional core as much neo-prog and an ambient production style that drives the force.  And I admit, the style has gotten a hold of my curiosity concerning the earlier works, so at some point, I'll be checking out the other Sanguine Hum albums.  I think I'll give this a 75/100, putting it in the same league as Enslaved's In Times and the Supertramp debut.

So tomorrow, I'll head over to Edge's Section 8.  Thanks for the rec, Grumpyprogfan!
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I appreciate that you take the time to listen to all suggestions and provide feedback.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

 I didn't read all of your last message and I'm not reading this one either. I have no patience for people who I feel are disrespectul and won't listen to others and think their opinions are facts. However, If you want you can send me a private message and we'll chat on there. Good luck.

Says the guy who said he'd let me have the last word and still replied anyway.  What I have to say applies to the public here as well.  I'm afraid people will consistently be comparing your behavior to mine and seeing that I'm obviously the one showing more self-control than you are, I mean it's obvious from the names and adjectives you use to describe those who merely disagree with the way you go about discussing something, which is really more of an issue than the fact that you disagree at all.  Everyone else here is perfectly free to disagree with me, but I'd still preferred that they detail the opinion.

You know, you could be simply trying to get under my skin or derail my thread.  I've been through that.  Except, I had a boss acting like you who got fired about a month ago, and I was one of the leading facts as I filed two reports on him, and both reports had proper, mature, gentlemanly language, the kind of thing I've been suggesting you practice.  So I know how to get under your skin as well.  And even if you don't think that's the case, at least others will read this with a bowl of popcorn at their side.  I'm more than willing to provide a polite disagreement if you are.

The only real fact here is that I've shown more control.  See, I'm used to people like you, and my standards that I follow were built on the awareness of the problems with which the manner of speech you've shown in this conversation can in fact generate.  In other words, it's part of my ideals to fight that behavior.

In time you will see that I can accept disagreement here, as there will be times other users let me know when I actually have made an error in judgement AND CAN ACTUALLY BACK IT UP.  So this can go one of two ways: A. the proof in time will show you that you misjudged me, and you may do the thing I expect a 50+ year old to do and apologize like a mature adult, or B: you'll be too embarrassed to.

And now, for the current update on my neo-prog situation: 

Infringement.

1. Transition.  I typically start from the debut up.  Not a neo-prog album like the other two.  It's got some good ideas, but there's a strange lack of activity in the background which makes a lot of sections feel empty despite the consistency and goof flow.  67/100.

2. Alienism.  This one's adds the neo-prog synth layers and has slightly improved songwriting.  Anything wonky about the progressive transitions from the last one is mostly gone.  74/100.

3. Black Science and White Lies.  This one was quite diversified, switching between different eras of hard rock for influence and switching between neo-prog and standard prog.  The tunes and the flow got better as the album went along, starting out good and going into bursts of greatness.  83/100.

Thanks a bunch for the rec, Richardh!  I'll be looking forward to the next Infringement album.  After a creative splurge like this, I'm eager to see what they do next.

The next recommendation is by Grumpyprogfan: Sanguine Hum - A Trace of Memory.  Now the RYM genre tagging is different from the PA tagging.  RYM lists it as standard prog as opposed to neo, even though the band's listed as neo here.  I'll try out this one album first, and if it score the tag on my part, I'll check the other albums out.  If not, I'll move onto Hosydi's suggestion: Edge - Suction 8.


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I just listened to Pendragons the world and I thought it was very good common Prog. Like genesis.
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^ I have listened to that Pendragon album. Incidentally, the Pendragon release I appreciated the most is The Jewel.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm not a Neo-Prog fan, but I feel like I still know it when I hear it commonly -- rather like Symph Prog meets Crossover Prog, AORish commonly, often Genesis inspired, dramatic melodic rock often enough with Gilmourish guitar solos and having melodic keyboard runs. Later on a metal component becomes common. Often has ballads. Melodic Prog Rock. PA has its own, but here is the rate Your Music definition.

If you want a straightforward idea of what neo-prog sounds like, then based on the 30+ albums I've heard and occasionally revisited, the most standard sound belongs to Pendragon's album, The World.  Good album, not great.  Check that out and you know what it sounds like.  Tre Seventh House is a good example of diversification within the genre without steering too far out of it.

There is even some neo-prog I would rather tag as AOR instead, like Pendragon's Kowtow, before they honed their sound.
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I'm not a Neo-Prog fan, but I feel like I still know it when I hear it commonly -- rather like Symph Prog meets Crossover Prog, AORish commonly, often Genesis inspired, dramatic melodic rock often enough with Gilmourish guitar solos and having melodic keyboard runs. Later on a metal component becomes common. Often has ballads. Melodic Prog Rock. PA has its own, but here is the rate Your Music definition.

Originally posted by rateyourmusic rateyourmusic wrote:

Neo-Prog is a synthesiser-driven style of Progressive Rock that emerged in the early 1980s in the United Kingdom. Fish-era Marillion and IQ are considered to be the defining bands of the genre.

Neo-prog took off in 1983 with bands taking strong influence from the Symphonic Prog sounds of Genesis, Yes and Camel, but replacing the hammond organ and mellotron-heavy sounds of symphonic prog with a focus on synthesisers and keyboards. The synthesisers are often the driving force in neo-prog, with the guitar regularly playing high-pitched and atmospheric lines as opposed to the riff-driven tendency of symphonic prog. Genesis' Wind & Wuthering is an influence for the guitars, and is considered by some to be the first neo-prog record. Neo-prog bands also have more Pop-oriented melodies than other forms of progressive rock, while still keeping the complex instrumentation. This saw some significant radio play and fame for some bands, with Marillion charting 11 top 40 singles during the time Fish was their vocalist.

Although the original scene died in the late 1980s with Fish leaving Marillion and Peter Nicholls leaving IQ, the genre continued an underground following with bands like Pendragon, Arena and Galahad at the forefront, and creating some smaller scenes, like the 1990s Polish scene of Abraxas, Collage and Quidam. Although Marillion moved further away from neo-prog, IQ continued to make albums in the style, and gained a further cult following after Peter Nicholls returned to the band.
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No worries. I am surely in the wrong thread here. I wouldn’t know Neo-Prog if I heard it. It’s an odd genre designation. Maybe I would do well to go listen to some of the bands mentioned here and see if I can get a fix on Neo-Prog.

NEO

combining form,
variants

: new : recent

: new and different

: in a new and different form or manner

: New World

: new and abnormal

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Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

That’s exactly right me Asoi. It is definitely outsider music. We just do whatever we feel like doing I guess, just subtle hints of jazz only because I like the sound of brass ( synth brass, lol). The “Hey Look” part of your post is a lame dig though. Kalvin and I love what we do.

I'll check it out at some point, but once I'm done with neo-prog.  And the new Banco.
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That’s exactly right me Asoi. It is definitely outsider music. We just do whatever we feel like doing I guess, just subtle hints of jazz only because I like the sound of brass ( synth brass, lol). The “Hey Look” part of your post is a lame dig though. Kalvin and I have great fun with it and we love doing what we do.

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Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

A lot can happen in those short years. One year can seem like a long time, two years even longer etc.

Can.  That's the keyword.  "Can" and "does" are two different things if you apply it to a specific topic.  In this case, it's the neo-prog scene.

I'll check them out after getting done with Bakullama.


Listen, I'm not an idiot so please don't talk to me that way.  

Can and does(in this case did). Wow. You really like to argue don't you? Like I said let's agree to disagree and move on. 

I saw your Pendragon reviews. I have a few of their albums but haven't listened to most yet. They are one of the big three of neo prog.



I don’t think Bakullama is neo-prog but maybe you’ll find something interesting there. It’s been called eclectic, prog adjacent, and experimental. Thanks for the listen.   I’ve read this thread and to be honest, I’m not clear on what the argument is about. Hope it works out amicably.
Bakullama's music is a scholastic example of so-called 'outsider music.' Even the artists themselves label their stuff as "outsider" on Bandcamp. Proggy at moments, sure, but it's rather likely, "Hey look, I can sound a bit prog-rock"; "Hey look, I could play jazzy things too," "And I can be avant-rock too, right?"
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Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

I would go to Awesomeprog.com or even here and look under the neoprog genre tag. I’d be willing to bet there are hundreds if not thousands to choose from. At ap you can specify tags like diverse, etc. good luck with your hunt. In the meantime you can’t go wrong with CAN !   

I normally use the RYM charts, but even then, the diversification in genre-tagging can also mean that all the genres are combined in every song, like Parranoul albums.  It wasn't sufficing, so I figured this could be a better place for recs.

And there's good news.  Soon, recommendations will be gone through much more easily.  I'm taking a break from my Pendragon marathon after Pure, and in a couple of days my Netflix subscription will be temporarily cancelled due to prices, but first I'm gonna speed through the rest of my favorite show: Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.  On March 1 I'll have much more time to get through the recs.
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I would go to Awesomeprog.com or even here and look under the neoprog genre tag. I’d be willing to bet there are hundreds if not thousands to choose from. At ap you can specify tags like diverse, etc. good luck with your hunt. In the meantime you can’t go wrong with “CAN” !   

Edited by Valdez - February 27 2025 at 22:05
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