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^^ that's an interesting post Greg; I guess it's down to however you wish to express your interest in music and grow your collection and knowledge.

Personally I have never been one for lists, so I struggle when people talk about their favourite albums from a specific year... I have to dig around on PA, constantly asking myself 'was that one from 1978 or 9?' Its much easier when members put a list up of albums from a year for me to vote on, because I can just accept they are right!

When it comes to ratings, I have frankly never given a rat's ass whether something should be a 4.2 or 4.3 out of 5; for those who like these kinds of things, fine... knock yourself out, but for me, I either like it or I don't... it either speaks to me more than their previous releases or less.. end of. Yes, I rate things on PA, which is pretty easy, because most things get a 3 or 4 star, but there have been literally hundreds of albums I've heard which are on PA, which I've never gotten around to give a rating to. As such, Mike's site, which I'm sure is very impressive, is the sort of thing that leaves me completely uninterested.

When a member says 'choose your fave from these 10', I'll make a choice, but ask me next month and it could be something different, purely because I feel in the mood for that one at the time!

I've never taken part in Album of the year, purely because there will only be a couple of albums that I will have heard... for instance in 2024, the only album I got around to hear was Focus 12. The rest of the time, I spend my time reacquainting myself with stuff I forgot to rate back in 2005 when I joined!!
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Wow, this site is running so slow for me and has been since yesterday... Takes a long time to open pages especially when logged-in.

^ Thanks Jared, I'm much with you on the rating thing (or I might say the over-rating thing. I prefer it simpler, more loosey-goosey. That's not fun for me). I'm not into doing that, especially when it is so fine-tuned -- it's enough that I like it, love it, find it mediocre, find it horrible. Mike's site does come across to me as treating it much more like a precise science than I would. It's art appreciation and I don't wish to "otherthink" my appreciation. Analysing that which I enjoy can lead to me not enjoying it. That happened to me with Film Studies, reviewing music and film can take away the joy of it. I like to "experience" it.

I like to focus on much I love, that which I am passionate about, and that quantity of love may be in in flux depending on the day and mood. Avestin got me into participating in the Album of the Year events with lots of encouragement and recommendations. Some years I participate, some I don't. Over the past few years I have been listening to more contemporary music than previously. I have heard three albums in full for 2025 so far. I still discover new-to-me acts and albums from the past 60+ years.

Although I do appreciate seeing the ratings of others (mostly cumulative which affects the chart rankings and can help me when looking into an artist's discography), especially at RateYourMusic, which has been my main resource for researching and discovering albums over the past few years, I have not been rating albums in years. I have done a few reviews with ratings in the past decade. I rated a lot at PA when the quick rating feature came out. I'm interested in charts even if I am not so interested to add to them often myself and have looked at many charts for the years, especially the albums charts at rateyourmusic and at Prog Archives. I do prefer rateyourmusic for that, but that's also because my tastes are not as focused on the music we have in PA as we find with many members at this site. So much of what I love and excites me is not in PA but also I do find a lot of it progressive in its own way. But again, I digress.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

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1974

1. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
2. Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage
3. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
4. Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You
8. Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass
9. Faust - Faust IV [AP Prog]
10. Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North
12. King Crimson - Red
13. Peter Hammill - In Camera
14. Cluster - Zuckerzeit
15. Henry Cow - Unrest
17. Harmonia - Musik Von
19. Magma - Köhntarkösz

1975

2. Hatfield and the North - The Rotters' Club
3. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
4. Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
5. Neu! - NEU! '75
6. Harmonia - Deluxe
7. Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
8. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
10. Klaus Schulze - Timewind
11. Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time
15. Henry Cow - In Praise Of Learning
16. Richard O'Brien - The Rocky Horror Picture Show [AP Prog-Adj]
17. Slapp Happy - Desperate Straights (with Henry Cow)
18. Kraftwerk - Radio-Activity (Radio-Aktivität)
19. Tangerine Dream - Rubycon

...


Outstanding List. Adding a bit more, so we have a good idea what the old SPR shows were about, which included all these things listed and ,,, more!!!

One of the nicest things, is seeing these listed ... but even better, is, that I even have copies of shows by Guy Guden (Space Pirate Radio) where all of these were featured at various times, and in many cases, like TD and KS, things were played in their ENTIRETY! Guy has a copy of all these shows, and only he can distribute them, as desired, though he has not done so in the past.

I like these lists, however, the sad side of it, is that there really was not, in those days, a location where these were played almost exclusively, so seeing them "survive" and being remembered, is special, even in my heart, and I (generally) do not like lists. And the credit gors to Guy, for having put up with so much during that time, to fight for all this stuff to get an ear, or two!

Adding some more to your neat list!!! 

NOTE: When you see the list for that many hours, you can get the feeling for the hardcore dedication to (not only) the new music, but also, what was (at the time) imports! Thus the timing of their release would not exactly be correct!


1974 (added material listing from the 9 shows that survived - about 30+ hours)

Edgar Broughton Band - Oora
10CC - Sheet Music
PFM - The World Became The World
Nektar - Remember the Future
Capability Brown - Voice
Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn
Amon Duul - Psychedelic Underground
Rare Bird - All That I Need
Kayak - See See The Sun
Sparks - Kimono MY House
Focus - Hamburger Concerto
Stoneground - Bad News
Sweet Smoke - Live
Syd Barrett - The Madcap Laughs
Roger Ruskin Spear - Unusual
Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets
Incredible String Band - Hard Rope, Silken Twine
Alice Bowie - Singles
Edgar Froese - Aqua
Cosmic Couriers - Galactic Supermarket
GTO's - GTO's
Esperanto - Dance Macabre
Tomita - Snowflakes are Dancing
Faust - So Far
Quatermass - First
Third Ear Band - Alchemy
Jefferson Airplane - Bark
Principal Edwards - Round One
Seventh Wave - Things to Come
Fripp and Eno - No Pussyfooting
Ash Ra Tempel - Gilles Zeitchieff
Ron Geesin - Music From The Body
Amon Duul 2 - Dance of the Lemmings
Plus - Seven Deadly Sins
Aphrodite's Child - It's 5 O'Clock
Caravan - And the New Sinfonia
Jean Yves Labat - M. Frogg
Can - Future Days
George Harrison - Lectroni Sounds
Ash Ra Tempel - Starring Rosi
Supertramp - Crime of the Century
Manfred Mann's Earth Band - The Good Earth
Todd Rundgren - Utopia
Firesign Theater - Everything You Know Is Wong
Jane - Here We Are
Paul McCartney - Ram
Vivian Stanshall - Men Opening Umbrellas
PFM - Cook
Carmen - Fandangos in Space
Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps
Garry Moore Band - Grinding The Stone

1975 (listing from 8 shows that survived. About 30 hours. Also includes some of the above as needed)

Amon Duul 2 - Wolf City
White Noise - Electric Storm in Hell
Second Hand - Death May Be Your Santa Claus
Kraftwerk - Autobhan
Le Orme - In Concerto
Amon Duul 2 - Hijack
Hawkwind - Hall Of The Mountain Grill
Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain
Can - Movies
Tasavallan Presidenti - First
Le Orme - Felona e Serona
Brainticket - Celestial Ocean
Walter Wegmuller - Tarot
Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen
Ange - Le Cemetiere des Harlequins
Steve Hillage - Fish Rising
Cosmic Couriers - Planeten Sit-In
Le Orme - Uomo di Piazza
Ange - Au Dela Du Delire
Popol Vuh - Selifpreisung
Banco - First
4 Karat Gold - All Bums
Le Orme - Collage
Ange - Caricatures
Khan - Space Shanti
Darryl Way's Wolf - Night Music
Aqua Fragile - Mass Media Stars
Banco - Darwin
Ramases - Glass Top Coffin
Grobbschnitt - Solar Music
Amon Duul 2 - Made in Germany
Vangelis - Earth
Reale Academie de Musica
Gong - Angel's Egg

....

IF anything, you can see how a show put on so much, to the point that a listing makes me drool ... and so many of the shows on the Internet, are not as open minded and experimental as this show was, and still is, though I think Guy is (likely) not well, these days. His spirit, if the show is over, is ridiculously insane, and I apologize for mentioning it so many times, but greatness needs to be appreciated, specially in a place like PA.
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^ thanks, Pedro.

Mt lists over at Awesome prog are quite a bit longer. Here is what I have so far for 20 up for 1974 (and the ranking itself is pretty meaningless) and 1975.

20. Zao - Osiris
21. Mandingo - III [AP Prog-Adj]
22. J.A. シーザー J.A. Ceasar (aka Terahara Takaaki, Julious Arnest Cesar, J.A. Seazer) - Cover art: 田園に死す 田園に死す [AP]
23. Miles Davis - Big Fun
24. Bennie Maupin - The Jewel in the Lotus
25. Can - Soon Over Babaluma
26. Perigeo - Genealogia
27. Placebo - Placebo
28. Focus - Hamburger Concerto
29. Miles Davis - Get Up With It
30. Magma - Ẁurdah Ïtah (Christian Vander)
31. Don Harper - Homo Electronicus [AP]
32. Klaus Schulze - Blackdance
33. Dzyan - Electric Silence
34. Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three
35. Hawkwind - Hall of the Mountain Grill
36. Sven Libaek - Solar Flares [AP Prog-Adj]
37. Samla Mammas Manna - Klossa Knapitatet
38. Terje Rypdal & Minbul - Whenever I Seem To Be Far Away
39. Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps
40. The Cosmic Jokers - The Cosmic Jokers
41. Alusa Fallax - Intorno Alla Mia Cattiva Educazione
42. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
43. Bob James - One [AP]
44. King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black
45. Camel - Mirage
46. Le Orme - Contrappunti
47. Premiata Forneria Marconi - L'isola di niente
48. Arti E Mestieri - Tilt - Immagini per un orecchio
49. Supertramp - Crime of The Century
50. Frank Zappa - Apostrophe
51. Gentle Giant - The Power & The Glory
52. Yes - Relayer
53. Electric Light Orchestra - Eldorado: A Symphony
54. The Residents - Meet The Residents
55. Ralf Nowy - Nowy 2
56. Quella Vecchia Locanda - Il Tempo Della Gioia
57. Eloy - Floating

1975:

20. Lenny White - Venusian Summer
21. Edgar Froese - Epsilon In Malaysian Pale
22. Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All
23. Egisto Macchi - Voix [AP]
24. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns [AP Non-Prog]
25. Eddie Henderson - Sunburst
26. Apoteosi - Apoteosi
27. Philippe Besombes - Pôle
28. Camel - The Snow Goose
29. Patti Smith - Horses [AP Prog]
30. Egisto Macchi - Violenza [AP]
31. Sloche - J'un Oeil
32. Carpe Diem - En Regardant Passer le Temps
33. Lard Free - I'm Around About Midnight
34. Egisto Macchi - Sei composizioni [AP]
35. Egisto Macchi - Andes [AP]
36. Peter Hammill - Nadir's Big Chance
37. Maneige - Maneige
38. Terje Rypdal & Minbul - Odyssey
39. Quiet Sun - Mainstream
40. Clearlight - Clearlight Symphony
41. Gentle Giant - Free Hand
42. Area - Are(A)zione [AP]
43. Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn
44. Philippe Besombes - Libra
45. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories
46. Gryphon - Raindance
47. Nektar - Recycled
48. Brian Eno - Another Green World
49. Pulsar - Pollen
50. Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial
51. Harmonium - Les Cinq Saisons
52. Crucis - Crucis
53. Malicorne - Malicorne 2 [AP]
54. Steve Hillage - Fish Rising
55. Focus - Mother Focus
56. Rush - Caress Of Steel
57. Robert Wyatt - Ruth is Stranger Than Richard
58. Maxophone - Maxophone
59. Chris Squire - Fish Out Of Water

I stick with 20 otherwise they can become monsters lists, especially with covering as many years as I did. I have Can's Future Days under 1973 and Faust's So Far under 1972, but as you say, the timing of the release may not be accurate to the year presented. Anyway, whatever the year of release, various nice stuff in your lists that I neglected/forgot to include. By Can Movies do you mean Monster Movie? Monster Movie is one of my fave 1970 albums.

In those years I was very small and it was thanks to the internet that I got to know the vast majority of albums I listed. Not because of internet radio, but mostly though charts, recommendations, coming across album and artist names when searching, sometimes through youtube, this forum... I especially got a ton of recommendations from one user here but also many others from other people. There is so much music to access now. I have been streaming a lot. One super kind member at PA sent me a bunch of CDs and so I am going to be using my stereo much more. Vangelis' Earth (1973) is one of them. Excellent stuff. I had put it away when my eldest with partner moved in to live with us a few months ago. I didn't need to clear out as much, but I was rushing to get things ready. Happy to get it set up again even if they are with us. Plus I do have a still working discman, ghetto blaster, and other things that play CDs.

I did get into Focus and Gryphon before I became a teenager and then again as a teenager. In Creative Writing Class in the late 80s the teacher had record player with many albums that we could play. I always put on Focus' Hamburger Concerto or Gryphon's Midnight Mushrumps.

I like lists in part as a way of keeping track, discovering things, and as a way of sharing what matters to us (sharing our tastes). If someone sees a bunch of Exotica in my lists and not AOR, they might know better what to expect from me. I would quite discombobulated sometimes when people would make comments like"Where is such and such?" in my lists of favourites even though I have not indicated that I know or like such music. Sometimes it would be music that is anathema to my tastes that people would expect. The better one knows what people like, the more apt the anticipations can be and the more sensible the expectations commonly.

Edited by Logan - 1 hour 54 minutes ago at 10:26
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

As such, Mike's site, which I'm sure is very impressive, is the sort of thing that leaves me completely uninterested.

I would be interested in what it is that puts you off. When it comes to rating precision, I have been thinking about offering reduced UIs, so for example instead of using the 1-100 scale (which I already segmented into tiers) I could offer only tiers (F, E, D, C, B, A, S) for those who are turned of by the numbers. 

Regarding these poll lists specifically, I have made it a point to implement them without the need to rate anything. You merely select a list of releases - done! Registered users can optionally rate them, and I'm glad that people do it, but I'm equally happy if people just posts unrated lists.

Please let me know, either here or as a PM, if there is something I could do at AP that would make you want to try to use it! Smile
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


^ Thanks Jared, I'm much with you on the rating thing (or I might say the over-rating thing. I prefer it simpler, more loosey-goosey. That's not fun for me). I'm not into doing that, especially when it is so fine-tuned -- it's enough that I like it, love it, find it mediocre, find it horrible. Mike's site does come across to me as treating it much more like a precise science than I would. It's art appreciation and I don't wish to "otherthink" my appreciation.

I agree! Throughout 2024 I have been moving towards a simpler system. Even though the underlying system is complex, when I nowadays rate a release, I only think in terms of tiers (S - Stellar, A - Awesome, B - Great etc.) and then the "fractions" are merely slider-like gradations. I'll definitely introduce a simplified version that does away with the fractions and gives you a simple dropdown with the seven tiers. I could even add a more simplified mode that emulates the PA stars, mapping S to 5 stars, A to 4 stars, B and C to three stars and D, E to two stars and F to 1 star. Users will be able to switch back and forth between these modes to find what suits them best.
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