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Basing on how often I listen to them, Abbey Road wins with no contest
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Sgt. Pepper, and I don't see Abbey Road as really something special (for the year 1969).
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"Why not both?"

Personally, I may prefer Abbey Road, as a more rocky one, but I didn't keep it in my collection when I decided to make it a very selective (small) one, and only found Sgt. Pepper's to be worthy enough.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

"Why not both?"

Personally, I may prefer Abbey Road, as a more rocky one, but I didn't keep it in my collection when I decided to make it a very selective (small) one, and only found Sgt. Pepper's to be worthy enough.

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I have to admit that at the time I loved the Beatles ... like everyone else ... but by the time I heard The Nice, then ELP and some of the "new music", I lost the desire to bother with the Beatles. 

That said, listening to SGT Peppers these days, seems ... rather boring and I find it better suited for the radio "songs" at the time, than any serious music. By the time Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever came out, I though they had "progressed" to more serious music and ideas, other than just eccentric daily commentary.

Listening to Abbey Road, these days, is very different. And it is hard to not state that it is, by far, one of the best "progressive music/rock" albums of all time, SPECIALLY when it came out ... there was nothing like it around, and it blew many folks and stations off their rocks. However, with today's fans, the album is just sent off to the closet to an area that does not think it belongs, and has very little of what "progressive" is .. .mainly a bunch of senseless solos, and a format!

At 73, now, I can listen to the albums, but they are not the exciting material that really helped you wake up and learn about the arts and how they were developing, since rock music was not the only thing going nuts at the time. Within that context, both albums are massive for the history of it all ... something that today's fans do not care about much ... because it makes their favorites not look or sound, very good at all ... and in fact, show most of them as empty and a sad excuse for great music.

Reminds me of classical music ... Mozart, Beethoven, Stravinsky, PUccini, Verdi ... they STILL take me away ... and those albums did at the time, and they still do some, though not much ... probably from hearing it so much.

One last note. Sgt Peppers. The album DID NOT get better for until until I heard the English pressing. The American pressing was a copy taken from a dumpster somewhere and it did not have the ambience that the original pressing had, which Capitol (or whomever) tried to make sure that it was "heard" on the newer "remastered" versions of the album, which were not remastered at all, but direct copies of the English pressing. The last album this happened to? Dark Side of the Moon, where the American version also tried hard to cut down the ambience which the live show made sure you heard ... which made it all better. Later a "remastered" version came out, and again, it was nothing but a copy of the original pressing!
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Both are masterpieces in their own way.
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Both albums are masterpieces, and even tho I just prefer Abbey Road it is marred by the slight mis-editing on the medley collage of side two.

For an album that was made as the band were disintegrating it is remarkably coherent, and an improvement on the prior endless recordings that eventually became edited down for 'Let It Be' - presumably being back at the EMI studio with their mentor George Martin (with his calming effect) made some considerable difference.

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Seems I have never responded to this... I take Revolver and Rubber Soul over both of these. I never was much of a fan of Abbey Road but have recently warmed some more to it, but I still have  Sgt. Pepper as their no. 3 album after the two mentioned above.
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Abbey Road by far.

Specially side B, Almost one epic.
            
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Retrospectively, Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road make up my 1 and 2.  Sgt. Pepper's was the first Beatles album I had ever heard.  At that point I was only familiar with a few of their songs thanks to a middle school viewing of Yellow Submarine, and this album helped change my viewpoint of music entirely.  To this day, it's on my top 20 as my highest-rated pop rock album, and second-highest psych pop album directly under Yoshimi.  This was the album where their attempts at reinventing pop and rock in a dozen ways ended up as their most consistent and mystifying to me.
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I have recently come to the conclusion that Golden Slumbers (the medley) is my favorite Beatles track. Number two would probably be A Day In The Life. However, these two are pretty much tied for me. 
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A very unpopular opinion, but I'll take Let It Be over both of them.
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Beatles were massively important to me, growing up in the early seventies I loved their films and the many songs they recorded. I don't believe any of their albums are masterpieces. Sgt Peppers was as everyone knows a game changer in popular music and showed that bands didn't need to make an album that had Radio Hit NO1 followed by Radio Hit No2 and then Radio Hit No3 etc etc ad nauseum. They took full control and too that away from record companies. They became their own beast not beholden to anyone. Everyone took note even if they didn't like exactly what they did stylistically. Personally I rarely listen to any Beatles albums. Recorded music took massive strides forward sonically in the early seventies and all those Beatles sound like ancient history to me. Important yes. Listenable? No sorry. Love - Forever Changes was and still is way more impressive/enjoyable than any Beatles recording imo.
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Hi,

Both albums were important differently. Sgt Pepper helped bust up the radio controls with more material that was very different and not the common thing and titles or bubble gum stuff. 

To me, Abbey Road was about breaking out of any ideas anyone had about the Beatles ... it was, just like The White Album, their breakaway from it all ... and they showed, one more time, that they were not exactly stupid ... but sadly, after that, John went to cheap music and George to even sillier music and Paul ... well, at least he was trying something different, and was having some fun with Linda and it showed ... unlike all the other Beatles, there was some serious harmony here and you could easily see it.

So what else is new? We saw a bunch of boys grow up and become men! Wow ... what a novelty that is!
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I actually think these are the two most overrated Beatles albums... Take "A Day in the Life" off Pepper and it's an average album (for The Beatles). And if you remove the first two songs (best) - Come Together, Something, and "Abbey Road" is another average Beatles album.

White Album vs. Revolver would be tough.
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[QUOTE=Steve Wyzard] Abbey Road, by far.

What In a Silent Way did for jazz, Abbey Road did for rock and pop: foreshadow what everybody else would do over the next 10 years. Abbey Road is truly one of the most influential albums ever released by anybody. QUOTE] I kind of agree. It's not an album thought of in that way, but yeah. You have a point.
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Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

I actually think these are the two most overrated Beatles albums... Take "A Day in the Life" off Pepper and it's an average album (for The Beatles). And if you remove the first two songs (best) - Come Together, Something, and "Abbey Road" is another average Beatles album.

White Album vs. Revolver would be tough.

I might even go back to Rubber Soul personally. Lennon and McCartney (take note Paul lol!) were no longer a writing partnership even back then but at least this feels a bit more cohesive. The White Album is interesting in that it mapped the future (again) towards those mad seventies eclectic double albums (Works, The Wall etc). With Revolver, Tomorrow Never Knows towers over everything for me.


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Abbey Road no contest.

George 's Indian thingie is about 7-mins too long - and if the track is 6" (not 6'), it would be even better.

White album is about 50% rubbish, IMHO.
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