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^ Mike I see your a Devin Townsend fan. What did you think back in the day with his early stuff? I mean how obnoxiously loud it was. First thing I noticed when listening to his music for the first time was the loud production. Now after playing it many times the issues I had with the production seemed to fade, I got used to it. But that's a subjective production right there. Some loved it, some didn't.
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Personally I think the album sounds great,it's an album where the various players are mixed as a whole, the music sounds all together and the vocals are to the fore. It all sounds tight ❤️
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

^ Mike I see your a Devin Townsend fan. What did you think back in the day with his early stuff? I mean how obnoxiously loud it was. First thing I noticed when listening to his music for the first time was the loud production. Now after playing it many times the issues I had with the production seemed to fade, I got used to it. But that's a subjective production right there. Some loved it, some didn't.

I do not mind "loud" productions. Sometimes it bothers me a little bit, like when I have listened to a more dynamic mix and then I'm putting on Blackwater Park, I do hear the difference of course. As far as DT goes, I don't often listen to SYL releases these days. Maybe I'll put on City tonight, we'll see!

I think that from a pure technical standpoint mixes should be as dynamic as possible, and the equipment you play them on should be able to compress them on demand, if necessary, which is relatively simple to do, but impossible the other way round. 
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^How do you compress on demand?
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I'm not talking about digital formats like mp3, but about reducing (compressing) the dynamic range of a signal. Compressors are available as both analog and digital equipment. Car stereos typically use this to adjust the signal in relation to the noise (speed) in the car - they don't just increase the volume.



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It feels a mix of their last two album with Portnoy on drums, I liked it so far - loved the previous albums too.
It still not as good as Distance Over time, but their best since Octavarium I guess (excluding DoT ofc)
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Don't usually see a lot of love for DoT, I too think it's the finest Mangini album. I listened to Parasomnia about 15 times almost with nothing in between and now I need a break. It feels pretty excellent, but hard to say where it settles.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I'm not talking about digital formats like mp3, but about reducing (compressing) the dynamic range of a signal. Compressors are available as both analog and digital equipment. Car stereos typically use this to adjust the signal in relation to the noise (speed) in the car - they don't just increase the volume.


I would never spend money on equipment to compress my music, I don't think I've ever heard anyone doing this on purpose. And I spend a lot of time on audio gear forums....but hey, not my money!! LOL

As far as a studio doing this, that's a different thing than consumer audio.


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Originally posted by IncogNeato IncogNeato wrote:

IMO, Mike is a very skilled drummer and knows a lot of stuff. But he has settled into a place of basically just doing what he does with no attempt to maybe, possibly, sometimes, try and think of something just a little bit different than you've already done on 14 albums.

His las "amazing" drum album, IMO, was 'Awake'. 


Honestly, I'm just happy to have him back.  After listening to a few NoMeansNo albums, I've subconsciously focused on percussion more, and this album threw a hundreds tricks out there, making even the worst songs more inventive and powerful.  The biggest flaw was that, while everyone else did their parts well enough, they couldn't keep up with him this time like they did in Images and Words and Awake.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I'm not talking about digital formats like mp3, but about reducing (compressing) the dynamic range of a signal. Compressors are available as both analog and digital equipment. Car stereos typically use this to adjust the signal in relation to the noise (speed) in the car - they don't just increase the volume.


I would never spend money on equipment to compress my music, I don't think I've ever heard anyone doing this on purpose. And I spend a lot of time on audio gear forums....but hey, not my money!! LOL

As far as a studio doing this, that's a different thing than consumer audio.

It is routinely done for radio. Android TV sets also have an option for it. It's not called "compression" explicitly, but whenever you get an option to tweak the audio for quiet or loud environments, that refers to applying compression. 

Basically, when you are listening in a quiet environment (e.g., at home in your audiophile listening room) you want as little compression as possible (maximise dynamic range). When you're listening in a loud environment you want to apply compression because otherwise you won't hear anything but the loudest moments.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I'm not talking about digital formats like mp3, but about reducing (compressing) the dynamic range of a signal. Compressors are available as both analog and digital equipment. Car stereos typically use this to adjust the signal in relation to the noise (speed) in the car - they don't just increase the volume.


I would never spend money on equipment to compress my music, I don't think I've ever heard anyone doing this on purpose. And I spend a lot of time on audio gear forums....but hey, not my money!! LOL

As far as a studio doing this, that's a different thing than consumer audio.

It is routinely done for radio. Android TV sets also have an option for it. It's not called "compression" explicitly, but whenever you get an option to tweak the audio for quiet or loud environments, that refers to applying compression. 

Basically, when you are listening in a quiet environment (e.g., at home in your audiophile listening room) you want as little compression as possible (maximise dynamic range). When you're listening in a loud environment you want to apply compression because otherwise you won't hear anything but the loudest moments.
I get what you are describing for radio and TV, that's a common thing.....but to my knowledge there is no stereo gear that does this on purpose or as an option, again for home consumer use. Only the CD does this on purpose...LOL
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^ The CD? It has a higher dynamic range than vinyl, so I'm not following ... 

Sure, high-end home consumer stereo gear is catered towards the audiophile listener, listening at high(ish) volume in a quiet environment. No compression needed in that use case, which takes me back to my initial point: Music mixes should be as dynamic as possible, because that's the only way to get an optimal listening experience everywhere. A dynamic mix can be compressed quite easily, but a compressed mix can not be "expanded" again.
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