AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Jacob Schoolcraft wrote: On P.E. there are members who are more likely to talk about Jade Warrior, Ange, Pulsar and other European underground bands. At least it seems that way. This is of interest because you've got PE members who will offer up information about these bands that you sometimes won't find on the internet. Unfortunately there are a lot of snooty people on P.E. who think of music as a competitive sport. I don't think of music in that way and I try to avoid members of the site that do. Some of the opinions on P.E. I have difficulties in accepting. If you dislike Jethro Tull that is your right....but to say that Ian Anderson is not great on flute is just silly. Of course he's not the greatest..but he could improvise like Herbie Mann or Mel Collins if he wanted to. He just has no desire to. It's the musicians in Kiss and Grand Funk Railroad who are not great on their instruments . So on P.E. you'll have 2 or 3 members stating that Ian Anderson is not very good and then the next post down you'll have members talking about how great Grand Funk Railroad are on their instruments...and it's such a turn off Alan Holdsworth is often tossed around in conversation like the greatest guitarist on earth. He's often held above other phenomenal players and it's not accurate to say so logically. I sometimes see more of a sharing process on Prog Archives where people actually agree on viewpoints other than their own. There are also P.E. members which hail from Cumberland County, New Jersey and that particular area has no culture and regarding music it has a back in the woods mentality..which is very backwards, macho...and moronic to me. And that exists on P.E. which doesn't seem to surface too much on Progarchives. I can understand why you might think this and there are some people on there who seem to be like that but I don't think it's as bad as it used to be. The really snobby people either got bored or were kicked out or whatever. I think a lot of them tend to like more than just symph prog or prog metal and many are big fans of RIO and avant garde. Most of the prog places I see online seem to be mostly younger fans who seem to be really into prog metal and not much else or maybe just newer prog and aside from the most well known 70s bands (or well known in general) don't know much about the lesser known (old and newer) bands. At least that's been my experience. Go on any of the prog reddit pages and you'll see what I mean. They might occasionally mention Eloy, Triumvirat, PFM, Ange or Nektar but probably not much more obscure than those.

Edited by moshkito - February 02 2025 at 03:34

Jacob Schoolcraft wrote: On P.E. there are members who are more likely to talk about Jade Warrior, Ange, Pulsar and other European underground bands. At least it seems that way. This is of interest because you've got PE members who will offer up information about these bands that you sometimes won't find on the internet. Unfortunately there are a lot of snooty people on P.E. who think of music as a competitive sport. I don't think of music in that way and I try to avoid members of the site that do. Some of the opinions on P.E. I have difficulties in accepting. If you dislike Jethro Tull that is your right....but to say that Ian Anderson is not great on flute is just silly. Of course he's not the greatest..but he could improvise like Herbie Mann or Mel Collins if he wanted to. He just has no desire to. It's the musicians in Kiss and Grand Funk Railroad who are not great on their instruments . So on P.E. you'll have 2 or 3 members stating that Ian Anderson is not very good and then the next post down you'll have members talking about how great Grand Funk Railroad are on their instruments...and it's such a turn off Alan Holdsworth is often tossed around in conversation like the greatest guitarist on earth. He's often held above other phenomenal players and it's not accurate to say so logically. I sometimes see more of a sharing process on Prog Archives where people actually agree on viewpoints other than their own. There are also P.E. members which hail from Cumberland County, New Jersey and that particular area has no culture and regarding music it has a back in the woods mentality..which is very backwards, macho...and moronic to me. And that exists on P.E. which doesn't seem to surface too much on Progarchives.

On P.E. there are members who are more likely to talk about Jade Warrior, Ange, Pulsar and other European underground bands. At least it seems that way. This is of interest because you've got PE members who will offer up information about these bands that you sometimes won't find on the internet.

Unfortunately there are a lot of snooty people on P.E. who think of music as a competitive sport. I don't think of music in that way and I try to avoid members of the site that do. Some of the opinions on P.E. I have difficulties in accepting. If you dislike Jethro Tull that is your right....but to say that Ian Anderson is not great on flute is just silly. Of course he's not the greatest..but he could improvise like Herbie Mann or Mel Collins if he wanted to. He just has no desire to. It's the musicians in Kiss and Grand Funk Railroad who are not great on their instruments . So on P.E. you'll have 2 or 3 members stating that Ian Anderson is not very good and then the next post down you'll have members talking about how great Grand Funk Railroad are on their instruments...and it's such a turn off

Alan Holdsworth is often tossed around in conversation like the greatest guitarist on earth. He's often held above other phenomenal players and it's not accurate to say so logically. I sometimes see more of a sharing process on Prog Archives where people actually agree on viewpoints other than their own.

There are also P.E. members which hail from Cumberland County, New Jersey and that particular area has no culture and regarding music it has a back in the woods mentality..which is very backwards, macho...and moronic to me. And that exists on P.E. which doesn't seem to surface too much on Progarchives.





Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - January 30 2025 at 10:54

Painter wrote: You pumped about the Birds? A lot of Eagles fans down here

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 30 2025 at 08:35

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Painter wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Have you ever been to Progday? That's in N.C. I have not and it is only over in Chapel Hill. Maybe a twenty minute drive. I looked at the last year's activities and it looks pretty cool. We will have to pop on over there this year if we have nothing else in the docket Yep. It's a lot of fun. I went many years ago and was involved for a few years. It's about an 8 hour drive for me which I usually split up in two days. One of these days I hope to return.

Edited by IncogNeato - January 29 2025 at 13:48

Painter wrote: IncogNeato wrote: Painter wrote: We moved down to Cary NC, three years ago. My son lives in Raleigh and I'm just barely south of Greensboro.  Cool. Where in Raleigh? I work at NC State.  BTW, we saw BEAT in Durham. What a show! What a venue.

Painter wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Ok, so then let's pitch a tent and hang out there until it opens back up again.  Where in the "Philly Burbs"? I was from the West Chester/ Exton area. We moved down to Cary NC, three years ago. I am Painter over on PE too. Found this place to find out about the 509 error

Painter wrote: We moved down to Cary NC, three years ago.