Krautrock

^Brillliant, M!  I am a huge fan of Werner Herzog, Klaus Kinski and the entire cinema movement they founded!!  

cstack3 wrote: I've also read that ("Krautrock" as a somewhat derisive term).

Hosydi wrote: The term 'krautrock' was coined by British rock journalists in a derogatory manner for all bands from former West Germany during the late 1960s and early 1970s. Germans themselves, however, back then referred to their peculiar take on experimental rock/psychedelia/space ambient as "kosmische Musik," which served as an umbrella term for various influential bands from West Germany, including both the experimental rock band Can and electronic music acts like Tangerine Dream.

Hosydi wrote: ... The term 'krautrock' was coined by British rock journalists in a derogatory manner for all bands from former West Germany during the late 1960s and early 1970s. Germans themselves, however, back then referred to their peculiar take on experimental rock/psychedelia/space ambient as "kosmische Musik," which served as an umbrella term for various influential bands from West Germany, including both the experimental rock band Can and electronic music acts like Tangerine Dream.  ...

In the late 60s, ( to my knowledge), Syd Barrett was or ( could have been), the person to invent a particular sound and style which was eventually identified as Space Rock. The slide with echo and odd sounding keyboard work would prove to be identified in the music of Amon Duul II on albums like YETI . They weren't literally copying the style of "Interstellar Overdrive" or "Astromony Domine" but simply trying to...or choosing to capture its sound. Sections of Can albums and early Guru, Guru . Early Ash Ra Tempel alongside several other German bands were influenced by the early Pink Floyd..

Syd Barrett was not a virtuoso musician. He did in fact invent that sound and or style which mostly surfaced with a 4 piece band during the Krautrock era. I believe that many Rock guitarists from England grew up hearing Sci-Fi TV themes during the 1950s and 1960s. Many of them sat in front of the TV and played along with the theme or listened to radio Luxembourg. In some ways the riff in "Lucifer Sam" has similarities to Peter Gunn or Batman. "Interstellar Overdrive " is some double string strumming which was familiar to some folks in the Twilight Zone theme.

Some of the Sci-Fi theme and improvisation bits in Interstellar Overdrive were noticeable in Krautrock. It differed from Psychedelic Music and was in fact a extension of it..but it's important to consider that Barrett may have invented a Space Rock style from different sources...such as MMM Music , Sci Fi, and white Noise improvisation.

Krautrock itself having originality in other areas as well..such as the particular style of Electronic Music which began with dark soundscapes and by 73' changed by adding more pulsating rhythms and oscillating effects. Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze, ( for example), would often create a repetitive pulsating rhythm and play an eerie sounding signature line over top while adding more layers of keyboard sounds which could take your mind to other places. People with a short attention span might become impatient with the music. Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream were releasing albums containing that style years prior to Electronic Music being utilized for Dance Music

Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - January 20 2025 at 13:07

cstack3 wrote: The Beatles started in Hamburg, Germany....do they qualify as Krautrock?

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Hosydi wrote: ... I strongly disagree, because there is a lot of quite interesting contemporary stuff tagged, among other tags, as krautrock, as it is inspired by the early 70s kosmische Musik. ...

Hosydi wrote: ...  In particular, I mentioned that a number of contemporary bands are referred to as krautrock in addition to other tags like "experimental," "avant rock," "improvised music," etc., only in favor of describing their sound, which is partly inspired by 70s krautrock; the quality of many of those modern bands is indisputable.