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Illegal Alien or Who Dunnit? |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18941 |
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Yeah, yeah I know. Both are crap right? These are considered (as far as I can tell) to be the two worst Genesis songs. But really which one is better (political correctness aside)?
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29452 |
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Both are equally bad.
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Necrotica ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Colaborator Joined: July 28 2015 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3407 |
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Equally bad. Even as a fan/apologist of pop-era Genesis, there are still a few songs that I honestly can't defend in good conscience. And those are two of them
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18576 |
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Both are crap, but "Illegal Alien" (song + video) is downright offensive.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45685 |
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Both are bad. Not equally bad, Whodunnit is worse than Illegal Alien IMO.
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A Crimson Mellotron ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2020 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Status: Offline Points: 5690 |
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More like neither of these for me
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24638 |
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Nwither, obviously.
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tdfloyd ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 06 2008 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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I'll write in Anything She Does as the worst Genesis song
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5690 |
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I pick Illegal Alien. BTW, I don't think the songs are bad. They're just not the type of music hardcore prog nerds would truly enjoy. The instrumental performance is good, the arangements do the job, the mixing isn't terrible either and Phil's vocal work is more than competent.
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Mirakaze ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Eclectic, JRF/Canterbury, Avant/Zeuhl Joined: December 17 2019 Location: (redacted) Status: Offline Points: 4229 |
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I actually like the melody and arrangement of "Illegal Alien" but the lyrics, Phil Collins's fake accent and all the stupid sound effects littered onto it make it something I would really rather avoid in the remainder of my lifetime.
Who Dunnit never really bothered me, honestly. It's just a tolerable piece of filler if you ask me |
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Octopus II ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 21 2023 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 12412 |
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Neither
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43455 |
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The same for me too.
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3556 |
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As sure as the good Genesis is seriously great, the bad is seriously poor. I cannot point my finger at their worst song, but these two are serious contenders both.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45685 |
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True, I think Whodunnit is their worst song. If anyone else had created Whodunnit, i would not have cared, but coming from Genesis, it's weird... And Tony admitted they created the song just to let loose, let off steam, playing with some new synths of the time. You Might Recall was supposed to be used on the album, but they used Whodunnit instead. It's a "what were they thinking" situation, if there ever was one.
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twosteves ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4095 |
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I get thru 2 minutes of whodunnit and can’t get to the end
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twosteves ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4095 |
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Far from WOKE but illegal alien is shockingly offensive- saw it live and was sad for the band I loved
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Criswell ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2023 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 619 |
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Ick!
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6819 |
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I went with neither. And it's hard to put political correctness aside on Illegal Alien because it is so terrible.
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Big Sky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 771 |
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Whodunnit vies for the worst song ever produced by Genesis. Illegal alien is bad, but not as bas as Whodunnit.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18941 |
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I guess maybe I'm able to sit through Illegal Alien because I grew up with it and also because I'm not taking it too seriously. I realize it was recorded during a different time. I seriously doubt the band were trying to be racist or offensive. I don't really know what they were thinking exactly but I doubt they were intentionally trying to make fun of people. Anyway, that's the one I voted for here.
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