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Poll Question: Which Genesis song do you prefer?
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    Posted: December 27 2024 at 21:44
Yeah, yeah I know. Both are crap right? These are considered (as far as I can tell) to be the two worst Genesis songs. But really which one is better (political correctness aside)?
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Both are equally bad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Necrotica Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2024 at 00:20
Equally bad. Even as a fan/apologist of pop-era Genesis, there are still a few songs that I honestly can't defend in good conscience. And those are two of them  
Take me down, to the underground
Won't you take me down, to the underground
Why oh why, there is no light
And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2024 at 00:49
Both are crap, but "Illegal Alien" (song + video) is downright offensive.
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Both are bad. Not equally bad, Whodunnit is worse than Illegal Alien IMO.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A Crimson Mellotron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2024 at 00:55
More like neither of these for me
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Nwither, obviously.
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I'll write in Anything She Does as the worst Genesis song
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2024 at 03:13
I pick Illegal Alien. BTW, I don't think the songs are bad. They're just not the type of music hardcore prog nerds would truly enjoy. The instrumental performance is good, the arangements do the job, the mixing isn't terrible either and Phil's vocal work is more than competent.
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I actually like the melody and arrangement of "Illegal Alien" but the lyrics, Phil Collins's fake accent and all the stupid sound effects littered onto it make it something I would really rather avoid in the remainder of my lifetime.

Who Dunnit never really bothered me, honestly. It's just a tolerable piece of filler if you ask me
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Neither Smile
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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Neither Smile

The same for me too. Smile
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As sure as the good Genesis is seriously great, the bad is seriously poor. I cannot point my finger at their worst song, but these two are serious contenders both.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2024 at 04:53
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

As sure as the good Genesis is seriously great, the bad is seriously poor. I cannot point my finger at their worst song, but these two are serious contenders both.

True, I think Whodunnit is their worst song. 
If anyone else had created Whodunnit, i would not have cared, but coming from Genesis, it's weird... 

And Tony admitted they created the song just to let loose, let off steam, playing with some new synths of the time. You Might Recall was supposed to be used on the album, but they used Whodunnit instead. It's a "what were they thinking" situation, if there ever was one. 
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I get thru 2 minutes of whodunnit and can’t get to the end 

Edited by twosteves - December 28 2024 at 07:48
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2024 at 07:46
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Both are crap, but "Illegal Alien" (song + video) is downright offensive.

Far from WOKE but illegal alien is shockingly offensive- saw it live and was sad for the band I loved
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Ick!
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I went with neither. And it's hard to put political correctness aside on Illegal Alien because it is so terrible.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Sky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2024 at 13:10
Whodunnit vies for the worst song ever produced by Genesis. Illegal alien is bad, but not as bas as Whodunnit.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2024 at 16:19
I guess maybe I'm able to sit through Illegal Alien because I grew up with it and also because I'm not taking it too seriously. I realize it was recorded during a different time. I seriously doubt the band were trying to be racist or offensive. I don't really know what they were thinking exactly but I doubt they were intentionally trying to make fun of people. Anyway, that's the one I voted for here.
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