Praised prog albums that you think are overrated |
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Logan
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^ I believe that the technical term for the rates-way-too-much syndrome is hyperübermuchoratealotism in short.
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siLLy puPPy
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^ that works. The irony is that English is stupid sometimes. To overdo
something is too do something too much. To overexercise is to exercise
to much THEN a improper definition like overrate DOESN'T mean to rate
too much but to rate too highly. Seems we need another prefix. German
and Russian do a somewhat better job at this sorta thing ;)
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fredyair
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Anything by King Crimson after In the Court. Better frase it will be anything by Robert Fripp after In the Court. I don't find his music compelling at all.
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Long live Progresive music!
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I never thought I would see the day when I genuinely thought the snow goose could legitimately be considered an underrated album but I certainly feel that way these days. Wow. Yes, some parts are mellow but that's Camel. Get over it.
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richardh
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We are social animals so wanting to be part of a group is not that strange. Subjectively I really dislike Larks Tongues In Aspic. To me it's a mess and very very boring. I don't like the production or the ideas except for Easy Money and even that sounded better when John Wetton did solo versions on his many 90's and 00's tours. However it is unique and experimental in many ways that I just don't understand even if subjectively it still remains something I don't want to listen to. So I'll give it it's due and didn't list it. Camel on then other hand are much nicer to listen to but literally added nothing in terms of new ideas to progressive music except for maybe The Snow Goose. If they hadn't have done that then I would struggle to take them seriously at all!
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cstack3
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Well, then, I guess you and I belong to different groups! I think LTIA is one of the best albums ever recorded in rock history. I was in a record store in Riverside, IL with my friend Wayne, where we saw Bob play Frippertronics on his "Drive to 1981" mini tour. We showed Bob a Super 8 college student film titled "Fripp" that we had made using LTIA Part 2 as the soundtrack, so I got to see his reaction to his own music. Bob rocked back and forth on the balls of his feet in time with the music, and was very intently involved with it (until the violent and bloody climax of the film, at which point he stopped rocking and stood in utter silence!). This was 18 June, 1979. That's what I enjoy about this site....the diversity and creative tension of members. Well said, Richard!
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MikeEnRegalia
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German has the same problem, the corresponding word "überbewertet" does not indicate whether it's about quantity or level. I guess in most languages it's mostly about level and then also about quantity (an overrated item has too many high ratings).
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Psychedelic Paul
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I feel the same way too. My Top Seven Most "Uberbewertet" Artists on Prog Archives. (in alphabetical order) Robert Fripp Gentle Giant Peter Hammill King Crimson Van der Graaf Generator Robert Wyatt Frank Zappa
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ThyroidGlands
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Agreed. In my opinion, LTIA is one of the greatest albums in history.
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Bloody bloody racket and rumpus
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ThyroidGlands
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For example, I feel that everything PT and Wilson did is highly overrated. Honestly, I tried many times to listen to their music, and it doesn’t appeal to me at all.
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Bloody bloody racket and rumpus
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Intruder
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Overrated is, of course, a subjective term - one likes what one likes and that's that. We may argue over the merits of the Mahavishnu Orchestra, but I'm still going to go home and enjoy another spin of Birds of Fire. That said, I think there are just too many Rush, Opeth, Dream Theater, and Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson albums in the Top 100......I dig most of those bands but I think the "fanboy" aspect has taken from the spirit of the poll. Rush's Hemispheres certainly deserves favor, as does Opeth's Heritage LP (I know, I know), the early PT catalog is a gas, but when the list leans too heavily on these bands, an opportunity for other equally worthy LPs that PA punters could potentially discover is lost.
And, man, TAAB at #4 is blasphemy - cut both sides down to 12 minutes and it's still barely listenable. And where in the "h" is the Grateful Dead on this list?
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MikeEnRegalia
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^ A good way to counter that phenomenon of too many releases by the same artists crowding out the others is to limit them. Which is not possible at PA, but has just been implemented at AP:
(as an example this is limited to two releases per artist)
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Grumpyprogfan
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This may cause severe outrage, but I think all of Neo-Prog (minus Frost* and Sanguine Hum) is overrated.
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Cristi
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Overrated?! I don't see it. Sure, I can think of a few neo-prog albums I find overrated, but the genre as a whole, it's not. In fact is one of the least liked prog subgenres, on PA and i imagine elsewhere as well.
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siLLy puPPy
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Hence why i stated "somewhat better job." Of all the languages i've studied they all have stupid flaws like that. No reason we couldn't have another prefix to be hyperspecific. Oh well. For me i am not a huge Genesis fan. They lacked the virtuosity in their compositions that made Yes and KC so compelling. Just a matter of taste really but Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme really make me snooze.
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