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    Posted: November 21 2024 at 21:01
As someone who isn’t a fan of Opeth, I can say that TLWAT is a very good album with some truly great moments. Ian Anderson's participation is spectacular. Without a doubt, the mellotron is probably the highlight of the album. If I enjoyed it, it’s likely that fans of the band found it to be an incredible record. Again, I’m speaking from complete ignorance here.

This is the fourth album I’ve listened to from them, but the band still hasn’t fully captivated me. That said, it’s a very good listen. I’d give it a 7/10 (3.5/5. Rounded up to 4 stars).

What do you think of the album?


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I'm still listening, but so far it's just okay. Nothing mind blowing or ground breaking. 2.5 stars.
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Several people seem to have popped up with reviews... on release day. Never was too convinced by these early ecstatic reviews, hope I am not the only one. I see these albums as something that should be left to "age" a bit, you should think about them for some time before you really make up your mind about it. Why rush writing anything? Perhaps there is something I don't understand in general but this seems to be a problem I have (and observe on other similar websites like RYM, for example) with large amounts of early reviews. Ermm
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

Several people seem to have popped up with reviews... on release day. Never was too convinced by these early ecstatic reviews, hope I am not the only one. I see these albums as something that should be left to "age" a bit, you should think about them for some time before you really make up your mind about it. Why rush writing anything? Perhaps there is something I don't understand in general but this seems to be a problem I have (and observe on other similar websites like RYM, for example) with large amounts of early reviews. Ermm

It happens all the time with new albums from famous bands, the same thing elsewhere (124 ratings on metalstorm). We have to watch out for abuse I guess. Smile
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I really like the album. Does it have to feature something "ground-breaking" in order to receive high ratings? Not in my book. Strong contender for album of the year, especially since Opeth release tend to grow on me. 
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I really like the album. Does it have to feature something "ground-breaking" in order to receive high ratings? Not in my book. Strong contender for album of the year, especially since Opeth release tend to grow on me. 

Not just high rating, but i imagine low ratings as well (which Opeth does not deserve anyway). Possibly extremes, only highs and only lows. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I really like the album. Does it have to feature something "ground-breaking" in order to receive high ratings? Not in my book. Strong contender for album of the year, especially since Opeth release tend to grow on me. 


Not just high rating, but i imagine low ratings as well (which Opeth does not deserve anyway). Possibly extremes, only highs and only lows. 

I gave it three stars lol
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I really like the album. Does it have to feature something "ground-breaking" in order to receive high ratings? Not in my book. Strong contender for album of the year, especially since Opeth release tend to grow on me. 
Not sure why you quote my thoughts. It's already rated pretty high (currently PA'S 2024 AOTY). Enjoy the album.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I really like the album. Does it have to feature something "ground-breaking" in order to receive high ratings? Not in my book. Strong contender for album of the year, especially since Opeth release tend to grow on me. 


Not just high rating, but i imagine low ratings as well (which Opeth does not deserve anyway). Possibly extremes, only highs and only lows. 

I gave it three stars lol

3 stars makes sense, you think the album is good but not essential. 
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It's easily 5 stars for me, I haven't reviewed yet though, it's a very dense album
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A very good album, I definitely like it a lot, but hard to place Opeth albums after just a few listens. 
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The middle of the album and the very last track are very good. Never been the biggest fan (of the band) if I'm honest but I may like this a bit more than other albums but that said I won't be getting a physical copy.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I really like the album. Does it have to feature something "ground-breaking" in order to receive high ratings? Not in my book. Strong contender for album of the year, especially since Opeth release tend to grow on me. 
Absolutely had the same feeling about 'In Cauda Venenum', an album I still enjoy very much. Not to mention how well the Swedish-language version unfolds, just a perfect fit for the music.
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^ I think it's better than ICV, more well-rounded and mature. As interesting as ICV was, in retrospect it seems like a premature attempt to return to the glorious days of Ghost Reveries.
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Hard to say for me, I love how growls are back and how Mike is using them differently, but, damn, ICV is also another fantastic album. The Will and ICV are similar but so different at the same time lol (and not only because of the growls).
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

Several people seem to have popped up with reviews... on release day. Never was too convinced by these early ecstatic reviews, hope I am not the only one. I see these albums as something that should be left to "age" a bit, you should think about them for some time before you really make up your mind about it. Why rush writing anything? Perhaps there is something I don't understand in general but this seems to be a problem I have (and observe on other similar websites like RYM, for example) with large amounts of early reviews. Ermm

Hi,

I find this over rated. Depending on your listening ability, you don't need to have the music "age" in your mind or heart AT ALL ... and for me, sometimes, I wonder how much of that comment is an issue with folks having to compare things in their mind prior to making a decision on the whole thing ... that takes a bit of time, before one can make up a comment.

It's rather bizarre notion to me ... at 74, I have not had to wait 60 years in order to listen to and review "Le Sacre du Printemps", or "Sgt Pepper's" ... or "DSOTM", or the brand new bruhaha alsum by Ahahurb and the Left Overs! I was already on "DSOTM" way before KMET and KLOS made a huge thing about it in LA, and Southern California ... and by the time they got to it, many of us PF fans were already laughing at their inability to make up their minds ... and one person at KMET had asked ... what song do we play? They're all too long! ... and this was 50 years ago, folks!!!! I had already heard a lot of DSOTM from bootlegs for at least 6 months!!!!!

Even more difficult to disseminate, is that we have to wait for reviews from the better known websites where the music shows up, so we can FINALLY evaluate things on our own.

The release day reviews are over blown ... let's say that a record group/company mails out 100 copies to 100 folks ... and you and I are in that list. I get the album Wednesday, listen to it and Thursday write the review. At least 90 other mailings got to a group that has to create a web entry for the album, and due to large lists (as would be the case in several website) the chance of it not being mentioned or reviews won't be around for several more days ... all of a sudden THAT IS NOT RELEASE DAY qualified reviews at all.

I simply wonder how much is so many of us waiting for someone else to say it, so we don't feel left out and way out in the Sahara Desert with our opinion and view!

I'm not exactly an OPETH listener, or fan, but I will take a look that at that album ... although a lot of their material is not quite my thing. I'll opine on the rest later if necessary.


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As usual you are reading things into posts which were never there in the first place and then go on insulting those who wrote them.

Btw: you started your post claiming the album is overrated and ended with announcing that you will look into it and opine later. Sounds like a contradiction to me …

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

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Btw: you started your post claiming the album is overrated and ended with announcing that you will look into it and opine later. Sounds like a contradiction to me …

Hi,

Mike, don't change my comments, please ... the idea/opinion was over rated, not the album or the band. That's very different.


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^Since I don't want to quote the entire post, I will just give a short reply here... Your original reply has little to do with what I said and above all you say that you are not exactly an Opeth listener... then why bother writing anything on an Opeth-related thread in the first place? Pretty much what Mike said, I think you misinterpreted my post by far and large.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

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Btw: you started your post claiming the album is overrated and ended with announcing that you will look into it and opine later. Sounds like a contradiction to me …


Hi,

Mike, don't change my comments, please ... the idea/opinion was over rated, not the album or the band. That's very different.



Ok, I think I understand now what you meant. In my opinion a really good release should immediately appeal to a listener on the first listen, but it should also grow with consecutive listens. This process still happens when I listen to music even with 40 years of experience listening to a broad range of music, and I am sure that it is the same for you. It’s how the human brain works.
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