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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Weirdly I love Beauborg even though I generally don't like avant music. I even own it on vinyl. It comes in a gatefold and has some of the most stunning artwork I've ever seen. Invisible Connections is a bit weird but I think it was tailored for the then new compact disc technology. It's insanely quiet but has a charm. The only Vangelis album I don't really like is the one he did for an Oliver Stone film that had Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie in it. Never seen the film and only heard the music once and that was enough. (looked it up and it's called Alexander). It's not that it's bad but it just didn't have anything memorable on it. His last 2 albums Rosetta and Juno To Jupiter are very good though. Worth checking out.


Interesting. I had vaguely remembered your reviews of both albums, so perplexed by this post I had another look, and it appears you have revised your opinion on both, significantly? Whilst your review of Beaubourg has mysteriously risen from 2 to 4 stars, your 'revised' 3 star IC review reads thus:

"I very rarely give any albums 1 star but this deserves it. Vangelis likes to be enigmatic and this is about as enigmatic as you get. It's truly wierd avante garde stuff has nothing to do with music (to me) and one can only wonder why he bothered. Apparently the album was released in Japan under the name 'Meditation' which explains a bit. To fans of progressive rock I suggest you avoid this. And if you do buy it don't say I didn't warn you!!"


I'd suggest you revisit it and carry out some judicious editing! LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2024 at 02:28
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Weirdly I love Beauborg even though I generally don't like avant music. I even own it on vinyl. It comes in a gatefold and has some of the most stunning artwork I've ever seen. Invisible Connections is a bit weird but I think it was tailored for the then new compact disc technology. It's insanely quiet but has a charm. The only Vangelis album I don't really like is the one he did for an Oliver Stone film that had Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie in it. Never seen the film and only heard the music once and that was enough. (looked it up and it's called Alexander). It's not that it's bad but it just didn't have anything memorable on it. His last 2 albums Rosetta and Juno To Jupiter are very good though. Worth checking out.


Interesting. I had vaguely remembered your reviews of both albums, so perplexed by this post I had another look, and it appears you have revised your opinion on both, significantly? Whilst your review of Beaubourg has mysteriously risen from 2 to 4 stars, your 'revised' 3 star IC review reads thus:

"I very rarely give any albums 1 star but this deserves it. Vangelis likes to be enigmatic and this is about as enigmatic as you get. It's truly wierd avante garde stuff has nothing to do with music (to me) and one can only wonder why he bothered. Apparently the album was released in Japan under the name 'Meditation' which explains a bit. To fans of progressive rock I suggest you avoid this. And if you do buy it don't say I didn't warn you!!"


I'd suggest you revisit it and carry out some judicious editing! LOL

I could do this with a lot of albums in truth. I gave Direct 5 stars if memory serves me well ansd said it was his greatest album but nowadays it would be 3 stars. I change my mind and opinion on a lot of things. 

Anyhow here is some very nice Vangelis artwork from my vinyl collection


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Hopefully this offers some explanation re Beaubourg

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4 stars If you are being kind you would say this is seriously avante garde cutting edge music.If not you would say that Vangelis had a spare lunchtime when he was bored and so decided to knock this thing up to pass the time.An epic of noodling proportions that goes nowhere,starts nowhere and doesn't really go anywhere in the middle.Very strange but very alluring and atmospheric.You make your own mind up.2 stars.

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My opinion of this album has somewhat changed over the course of nearly ten years. Like other 'different' albums that Vangelis has recorded such as Invisible Connections and Mask, this does take time to appreciate. At the time I typed this review I was busy categorising Vangelis albums into what could be considered 'prog' and those which weren't. Indeed this does not conform to the usual Vangelis releases such as China or Spiral. He only uses one synthesiser and much of it is improvised and unstructured. However at least I put the words 'alluring and atmospheric' which is perfect! Much of it works and indeed ultimately you must make your own mind up. Don't expect the usual thing and keep an open mind ( ironic I know given my initial review).4 stars.



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Voting for the German school of electronic music as represented by Klaus Schulze
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I like Direct for the scope it embraces but I think the impressive 'authentic' sound of earlier albums goes missing (no pun intended as he did the soundtrack for that film!) replaced by a feeling of 'fakery'.


Direct sounds like pure Vangelis to me. Shades of Albedo 0.39, Heaven and Hell, Opera Sauvage, and Blade Runner nets you Direct. Vangelis was implementing a new "direct" approach to simultaneous composition & recording that was to be the format for his output from that point forward.

But then he released The City, a majorly underrated, beautiful record that essentially fuses Soil Festivities and Blade Runner. I can't complain.
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