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moshkito
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Hi, ... you cheated ... he was on my list to add ... yes indeed, a very nice addition. Kitaro probably deserves better, but I have never thought of him as inferior to anyone ... it's nice stuff, even though it might be thought of as "classical" a lot more than "electronic" ... but it has some really pretty material.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I hope everyone knows that you pronounce Vangelis with a hard g as in goat.
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mellotronwave
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Don't neglect Earth his first solo Lp 1973 Vertigo under his full Name Vangelis O'Papathanassiou a wonderful opus very different from the synths paraphernalia he will use later |
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Criswell
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Electronic Realizations still gets quite a bit of play from me...
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verslibre
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It's exceptional, considering how little gear he used to actually record and engineer it! |
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verslibre
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Earth isn't EM, the only reason it's not been mentioned. Another of my favorites is L'Apocalypse des Aminaux. In fact, I do like it more than Heaven and Hell, so consider my top five revised. |
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Steve Wyzard
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I haven't heard everything he's ever done by a long shot, but here's my favorites so far from each decade: 1970s: China 1980s: Chariots of Fire and Soil Festivities (too hard to choose between the two) 1990s: The City
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Logan
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Thanks, I love China. While I tend to favour the 70s material (Earth, The Dragon, L'apocalypse des animaux, Albedo 0.39 and Spiral especially), I really like Antarctica from the 80s. I'm not very familiar with music he created post-80s. The first album of his I bought on CD was the compilation Themes (released in 1989). I was very into the kinds of music one would find in the New Age section back in 1989 and the early 90s. Listened to lots of Vangelis and especially Kitaro back then. During my time at PA, definitely Klaus Schulze has meant the most to me of these in the list and is one of my very favourite artists that I really got into over the past 20 years. Edited by Logan - November 19 2024 at 13:10 |
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Jared
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I have to say, this is starting to resemble our Vangelis Appreciation thread!
Reading all the comments with interest...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Logan
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^ True, very much so.
Can't have too much Vangelis. |
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richardh
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I like Direct for the scope it embraces but I think the impressive 'authentic' sound of earlier albums goes missing (no pun intended as he did the soundtrack for that film!) replaced by a feeling of 'fakery'. Voices is so beautiful and delicate for me. Spiral is classic for sure but I might even prefer Beauborg when it comes right down to it.
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Jared
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OK:
Jean-Michel:
If I could only pick one... Rendez-Vous I also enjoy the usual, Eq, Ox 1-3, Magnetic, Chronology, Eq Infinity.. I partly enjoy Zoolook (I think it's bold and innovative, but not as many plays), Revolutions (main theme is great, but like Mike's Crises, I'm not bothered with too much of Side B), Cousteau (the waiting meanders too much for it's own good... maybe the truncated LP version would be an improvement?) Vangelis: If I could only pick one... Albedo 0.39 I also particularly enjoy: H&H, Spiral, China, Soil & Mask L'Apocalypse, Opera Sauvage & Antarctica would be just below.. Beaubourg & Invisible are too intellectual for me... Edgar: If I could only pick one... Epsilon I also enjoy all his other solo works, with Aqua runner up... Pinnacles slightly less so tbh, but it's fine. Klaus Schulze... I'm going to have to give more close attention to; it's been too long since I've heard much, but I remember his early albums and like them.. |
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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moshkito
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Hi, I wonder if the issue with Klaus Schulze for many folks, is the fact that so much of his work is very long, and in a place where the audience lives by the 5 minute song, I'm not sure that KS is going to get any more appreciation, other than folks that knew him from the earlier days, but even then, it was a full side of a LP, which was anywhere from 20/30 minutes long. The stuff I like the most, though, is the stuff that would not be released regularly for at least 15 years, and when asking about it, his friend/manager (?), basically told me to fudge off. This was THE WORKS series, but one difference in that material ... most of it is just improvisation with various different folks and it goes on non-stop, which was ... even longer than the LP's. But there was in that stuff some incredibly beautiful things, that should have been released before ... but that friend/manager wanted that to be strictly a fan club thing, with an insane price. I'm glad that eventually they gave in and released the stuff on many CD's ... you can finally hear it ... but the improvisation side of KS was so wide and open, that I'm not sure that MIRAGE/MOONDAWN folks were going to like it! But there are some far out things in there ... really far out. It was like a complete new catalog, and different, too!
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Jared
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^^ I guess my idea of a perfect EM album would be a 20-23 minute piece on Side one and the same on Side 2... I'm less enamoured with 5 minute pieces in this style, but neither am I fussed about anything much longer, as it is difficult to maintain the structure, without aimless improvisations creeping in. For that reason, albums like Epsilon, Ricochet or Rubycon are perfect....
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Psychedelic Paul
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My Top 26 Prog Electronica Artists & Albums Not in the Poll. (one album per artist)
2010: ARC - Church - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mF14a_m02TvCRHnjeY5uC5eR0dS-5l6yQ 2000: Ash Ra Tempel & Klaus Schulze - Friendship - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-UvObqiyVg 1976: Ashra - New Age of Earth - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8plQdob4JP8 1994: Ian Boddy - The Deep - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZBR9Wg0fzesGObfm_Sc7zi 1999: Code Indigo - Blue - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nRKXzz30Fg6_uzTx_KjZdUQ3W_iEJgOKU 1989: John Dyson - Evolution - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbE_iTMkKmN3kdE5MA7-159 1993: Robert Fox - Blue Mountains Suite - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nt7sYlzt6Wdwcm6Ql_lH88KsuekGUvHlE 1996: Christopher Franke - The Celestine Prophecy - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nwPnwikMV7D1Y0EaufLv3kBIgSqo7t9xM 1979: Edgar Froese - Stuntman - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ka_EkKKONP1n6WwzXGp-6QOF0ltpJzAm8 1980: Gandalf - Journey to an Imaginary Land - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpEZVvOdT- 1991: Manuel Goettsching - Dream & Desire - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF7JDLIauKE 2021: Paul Haslinger - Exit Ghost II - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_QX8wEdyp11vXryw6kO4jjn86OkF1_fU 1977: Michael Hoenig - Departure from the Northern Wasteland - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kAtdy1Td2TcYdQrFN0sDHfvusapJjio68 1994: Glyn Lloyd-Jones - Ocean of Serenity - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nBBGRn5_2tX-bAcMISCHg6q9X_ESHXu9M 1993: Paul Nagle - Wavemaker 1993: Andy Pickford - Replicant - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEGLUBMahSJhavw_sG5pBnA5cgixlsvTc 2006: Johannes Schmoelling - Instant City - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kx4TXmVymSAYYxClK4GawXYUg56Md1-8s 1992: Michael Shipway - Beneath Folly 1983: Mark Shreeve - Assassin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPAXgTOXl0 1981: Synergy (Larry Fast) - Audion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_iTC5E9nU 1986: Tangerine Dream - Legend (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jvSHmXsuA 2020: Transceive - Frozen Circuitry - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kR2FSwFqBcsSsvMKdojhSEYxJIMeBKWOU 1991: Paul Ward - For a Knave 1996: Bekki Williams - Elysian Fields - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nf_JZ8W6X5t8t0F0sHBFQGk4eDgAxzCAY 1995: David Wright - Dissimilar Views - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mop7ZFQRQ7x69Vj_UN67LOucAQU8bPeW4 1985: Stomu Yamashta - Sea and Sky - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZGktSXRyH0
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Jared, what exactly did you mean when you said some of those Vangelis albums are too intellectual for you? Are they too complex or too classical sounding or something?
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Jared
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Have you heard the two in question? I find Beaubourg a struggle to enjoy and IC completely impossible... it's the musical structure of both, which are quite avant-garde, atonal and lacking in a basic melodic line. With IC in particular, it's a challenge to understand how the individual notes are connected in some passages? They are quite unlike any of his other works which, putting the two Soprano-orientated albums aside, are all very accessible??
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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octopus-4
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I like all of them but VANGELIS is the boss, here
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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No, I haven't heard them which is why I was asking. Thanks.
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richardh
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Weirdly I love Beauborg even though I generally don't like avant music. I even own it on vinyl. It comes in a gatefold and has some of the most stunning artwork I've ever seen. Invisible Connections is a bit weird but I think it was tailored for the then new compact disc technology. It's insanely quiet but has a charm. The only Vangelis album I don't really like is the one he did for an Oliver Stone film that had Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie in it. Never seen the film and only heard the music once and that was enough. (looked it up and it's called Alexander). It's not that it's bad but it just didn't have anything memorable on it. His last 2 albums Rosetta and Juno To Jupiter are very good though. Worth checking out.
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