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    Posted: August 27 2019 at 04:01
For those of you who rember, I use to laugh out loud about "eskimo prog", as I thought it didn't exist

Well, actually it does: Sume did three albums in the 70's
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Malik Høegh (12-string acoustic guitar, electric guitar, vocals),
Per Berthelsen (acoustic guitar, electric guitar, vocals),
Hans Fleischer (drums, 1972-77),
Erik Hammeken (guitar, bass, 1972-77),
Emil Larsen (bass, vocals),
Sakio Nielsen (organ),
Karl Sivertsen (acoustic guitar, electric guitar, vocals),
Nikolaj Steenstrup (Mellotron, percussion)

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They've got a fourth album from their reunion in the 90's
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Bumping this thread because I'm listening to Sumé's 1977 self titled album right now and I think it would be cool to have a progarchives entry from Greenland. At last.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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BTW, here's something prog rock fans might find interesting. The song Sikorngaa, in addition to the rock'n Hammond organ, features some tasty cleverly hidden background Mellotron strings near the end.

Also, that album was co-produced by Stig Kreutzfeldt of Ache. That's another "prog connection".



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Found a vinyl rip of their second album "Inuit Nunaat" from 1974 on Youtube:


I really like it so far, not much prog going on until the fourth track, but it is a pleasant album Smile



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Their final album (Sumé from 1977) is the one that resembles "progressive rock" the most.
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^ That one is available on Dailymotion.
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Got 3 of their lps on vinyl and absolutely love them; always felt their mix of folk, rock and psych with a political/historical bent should put them in some category here... I can't really categorize them so wherever the powers that be think the best fit!? 

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The band is on Proggnosis, with the style stated simply as 'Early Progressive', though only the second album from 1974 has been added to that database.

We therefore need to evaluate them, since we intend to be "the most complete and powerful progressive rock resource". Big smile

I've added the band to Awesome Prog, but there are no supported streaming links available. The albums are on Dailymotion though: Sumut (1973), Inuit Nunaat (1974) and Sume (1976 or 1977, there appears to be some confusion regarding when the album was actually released).

I don't personally hear any of this as Heavy Prog, so I guess we need to start the evaluation off in Psych/Space, and I've dropped a note in their team thread.
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I definitely hear more Folk and Psych elements than heavy prog. They certainly had a political edge; the cultural, spiritual and historical importance of the Innuit, the Danish rule over Greenland etc. These are the 'heavier' elements but with the predominance of 12 string guitar, organ, some electric guitar but often treated.. definitely more in the folk-Psych 'court' stylistically in my view (for what its worth)

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Quote 1976 or 1977, there appears to be some confusion regarding when the album was actually released
From what the disc and sleeve pictures on Discogs show, the album was recorded in 1976 and released the following year.
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^ That makes sense. It says on the sleeve (in Danish): "Recorded at: Sweet Silence Studio June / July 1976", and on the disc itself we have: "Made in Denmark ℗ 1977 ULO-1-B". The thing that made me uncertain was that their guitarist Per Berthelsen said in an extensive interview he did for 'It's Psychedelic Baby' magazine in May of this year: "Our third album, 'ULO 1,' released in 1976 in Greenland by ULO, was a significant milestone for us." Maybe it was released locally in Greenland in 1976 first, and then Worldwide in 1977?
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Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

^ That makes sense. It says on the sleeve (in Danish): "Recorded at: Sweet Silence Studio June / July 1976", and on the disc itself we have: "Made in Denmark ℗ 1977 ULO-1-B". The thing that made me uncertain was that their guitarist Per Berthelsen said in an extensive interview he did for 'It's Psychedelic Baby' magazine in May of this year: "Our third album, 'ULO 1,' released in 1976 in Greenland by ULO, was a significant milestone for us." Maybe it was released locally in Greenland in 1976 first, and then Worldwide in 1977?
My guess is that the guitarist simply made a mistake. That happens.

On the other hand, record mastering and pressing back in the day was a much quicker process, so the record could technically be finalized and even pre-distributed by the end of 1976.

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So, any updates, guys?
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

So, any updates, guys?

It's not even been decided which team should look into this band. Unless this is done soon, this will linger  aimlessly. 

(This always happens with "this genre or this genre" suggestions)


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I'd say: throw it into the "Crossover Prog" pool for now. And see what happens.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'd say: throw it into the "Crossover Prog" pool for now. And see what happens.

I haven't had the time to listen to thew band yet, I will ask David (yam yam) if crossover is a good fit. 
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^ I added Sumé (or Sume - I'm not really sure which is correct) to Awesome Prog and posted the suggestion in the PSIKE team thread as a starting point a fortnight ago - with the promise of providing a biography if the band was accepted in any sub. There has been no response from that team as yet though.

Psych/space would definitely be the most suitable sub for this band imho. I don't personally think that their output could be considered as Heavy Prog, and of course if PSIKE don't want them then there's always 'Leftover Prog' lol!

I think that the band definitely belongs here somewhere.
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