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Krautrock '70's: your favourite bands/authors?

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Poll Question: Chose three bands/authors
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    Posted: 21 hours 53 minutes ago at 15:50
Choose your three favourite bands or authors - and please write your fave albums of your choices.


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If you can, as third choose the most underrated band/author (in your opinion).


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I love music by all almost all of these. I went with Can and Dom but could have gone with any number of others. As my third, the underrated choice, meaning held in too low esteem (add my imo to the following), I went with Brave New World. The reason being that while the epic "The End" is the highlight of its album Impressions on Reading Aldous Huxley, I have come across others who consider that to be the only thing of note and significant worth on it. "The End" is fantastic, but I love the whole album. Also about "The End" I have heard someone express that they're only interested in The Doors' "The End" and as for Brave New World, someone wanted it to be about Iron Maiden instead.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 hours 38 minutes ago at 17:05
Voted for Neu! Mostly because it's one of the very few "original" Krautrock formations that did not have cringeworthy lyrics :v
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Many great bands/artists here. I voted for Amon Duul II, but I would be happy if any of them wins.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 57 minutes ago at 18:46
Ashra (Ash Ra Tempel)
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Most underrated: Brainticket
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Can, Amon Düül II, and Faust. Corresponding favorite albums would be Tago Mago, Wolf City, and Faust IV. The contents of this post are xanthan gum-free.
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 4 stars 1971: Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxUycrXb6eQ
 4 stars 1972: Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpHdPdxNxU4
 4 stars 1973: Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fqpc64kDv0
 4 stars 1973: Ash Ra Tempel - Starring Rosi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1da0hk623F4
 4 stars 1973: Ash Ra Tempel & Timothy Leary - Seven Up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjMwy67lFQg
 3 stars 1975: Ash Ra Tempel - Le Berceau de Cristal (soundtrack) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz_OcHc7jTGb3J9R4S1728Rz
 5 stars 2000: Ash Ra Tempel - Friendship (with Klaus Schulze) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-UvObqiyVg

 4 stars 1989: Ashra - Walkin' the Desert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdRm1CmQYIk
 4 stars 1991: Ashra - Tropical Heat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyAvO_Mp510
 4 stars 1997: Ashra - Sauce Hollandaise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbP22KsGqjU

 3 stars 1975: Manuel Göttsching - Inventions for Electric Guitar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khejrbgdc4w
 5 stars 1991: Manuel Göttsching - Dream and Desire - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF7JDLIauKE&t=1206s
 3 stars 1995: Manuel Göttsching & Michael Hoenig - Early Water - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdEXZWqrHPE&t=1618s
 3 stars 1996: Manuel Göttsching - The Private Tapes, Vol. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJD8tu7kuTE
 3 stars 1996: Manuel Göttsching - The Private Tapes, Vol. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svyTsgX_4r8&t=2553s
 3 stars 1996: Manuel Göttsching - The Private Tapes, Vol. 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDwuMDATmac
 3 stars 1996: Manuel Göttsching - The Private Tapes, Vol. 4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEbc5-sxuY
 4 stars 1996: Manuel Göttsching  - The Private Tapes, Vol. 5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsQs7B19zk
 3 stars 1996: Manuel Göttsching - The Private Tapes, Vol. 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwL_AQWJew
 3 stars 2005: Manuel Göttsching - Die Mulde - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS7HrQh_gCQ&t=2489s
 4 stars 2006: Manuel Göttsching - Joaquin Joe Claussell Meets Manuel Gottsching
 4 stars 2007: Manuel Göttsching - Live at Mount Fiji
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What I can tell here is that I'm fond / very fond of these albums:

Can - Tago Mago, Ege Bamyasi, Future Days
Amon Düül II - Yeti, Wolf City
Ash Ra Tempel - s/t
Faust - IV
Neu! - s/t
Gila - s/t
Agitation Free - Malesch
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Hi,

Glad to see the appreciation for AD2 and Can ... they deserve the credit and then some ... although I would not leave behind that group of folks that ended up making Michael Rother and some others the real heart and soul of what became "krautrock" ... catch the show for Jaki Liebezeit and you will see "krautrock" come alive when Michael Rother joins them for an incredible piece that even Damo was superlative. 

About the lyrics ... kinda sad to see that written about the lyrics ... if we take the anti-west attitude that Holger Czukay mentioned many times, you would think that the lyrics would also be done up likewise, thus, them not "making sense" is an important part of the music and scene, so we don't get attached to some kind of idea or symbology about anything ... and this is important, though we have a tendency to think that "meaning" is important ... and quite often, in terms of the arts ... IT IS NOT! ... as it tends to take apart the actual event/experience for the artist or the piece. It's like folks thinking they can figure out Jon Anderson, and he jokes, that actually it was about his breakfast ... !!! Which makes more sense than not!!! (Good thing that the poster has never read, or heard one of Peter Handke's plays at the time !!! His notion would be destroyed senselessly!) ( ... ohh and that Damo ... inventing lyrics and sounds ... !!!)

Lyrics, have become the lazy way in rock music ... by supposedly telling you what the song is about ... you know what is weird is that for nearly 500 plus years, lyrics have not been the foreward or forerunner of most music, but the Internet audience complaining about it ... is ... I guess a comment about not appreciating the music, because you gotta be told what it is about? 

Krazy!!!

However the lyrics thing died out around 1974 or so, and if we take AD2 as an example, after "Apocalyptic Bore" ... it literally said ... it didn't matter any more ... it was OK ... but we remember the ending guitar/violin duet ... but hate to show it, because the lyrics and the song are way out there! And if you want meaning ... there is no better literature than that in one song! .... (until you go to figure out why the Mona Lisa has a bird brain!!!) (... and the kids had taken all the skybites ... )


Side Note: Remember that almost all folks in the early "krautrock" days, were sons and daughters of WW2 citizens, and many of them had to be re-used for educational purposes because the teaching/learning element of things was just about wiped out ... (Edgar Froese mentions it in a special) ... and you know that since the 1930's or so, Germany was under a system that "told" folks what to believe and do ... meaning that if there were to be lyrics, they would be supporting the military ideals. Thus, the new "scene" all of a sudden, taking on a counter idea to "meaning" makes a lot of sense ... something that we have a hard time with, but in my book, and history  (parents involved in WW2 in Portugal) dealing with ... Both my parents never said a thing, good or bad, likely because they were threatened by the government ... and likely more than once ... so, all of a sudden, odd lyrics with "no meaning" is the right thing to do ... although not many other folks in Europe took up the "no meaning" as well as the early "krautrock" did, and then folks like Samuel Beckett with his famous play, which suggests there were STILL some things to worry about.


Edited by moshkito - 1 hour 18 minutes ago at 12:25
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Olape Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 4 hours 24 minutes ago at 09:19
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


What I can tell here is that I'm fond / very fond of these albums:

Can - Tago Mago, Ege Bamyasi, Future Days
Amon Düül II - Yeti, Wolf City
Ash Ra Tempel - s/t
Faust - IV
Neu! - s/t
Gila - s/t
Agitation Free - Malesch
Guru Guru - Hinter


My thoughts too:

Can - Ege Bamyasi
ADII - Wolf City
Agitation Free - Malesch

Other favs not on the list: Frumpy, Orange Peel and Kraan.



Edited by Olape - 4 hours 5 minutes ago at 09:38
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Amon Duul 2
Agitation Free
 Brainticket (not sure if they are underated but I enjoy their first 3 lps)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 2 hours 52 minutes ago at 10:51

Voted only though for Agitation Free, and Gila whose debut I may find underrated in general, even it's quite high-rated on PA.
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