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I like it. Sounds like Dream Theater to me!!!

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Haven't really liked anything they've done in the past 20 years, but I thought this was pretty good.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

octopus-4 wrote:

Listened just twice on the radio: not bad but nothing special (just the first impression)

Hi,

I find it weird/strange that the single brings up everything that DT has been for a long time ... and not show us anything new ... which is sad ... I think their album will likely fall into the ... so what ... category, if it continues with the same thrashing and style, and horrible mixes with little keyboards and very little bass ... such a typical metal setup ... aren't we tired of that yet?

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Apparently the pre-orders for the album are crazy. Laser's Edge in the US had 400 in one day, a record for this particular online supplier of prog. Portnoy has brought back a lot of dormant fans. Is this surprising? Not at all but we can't talk about DT like they are any other band and they recently played the O2 in London. Literally no other prog band has the clout to do that.

Edited by richardh - October 25 2024 at 22:02

richardh wrote:

Apparently the pre-orders for the album are crazy. Laser's Edge in the US had 400 in one day, a record for this particular online supplier of prog. Portnoy has brought back a lot of dormant fans. Is this surprising? Not at all but we can't talk about DT like they are any other band and they recently played the O2 in London. Literally no other prog band has the clout to do that.

Yes, preorders on the bands site were all gone by the 2-3 day. I ordered mine from LasersEdge as normal and he had a few variants. I have not checked but I would assume they are all gone now, I ordered the black version since it was pressed at Optimal Media in Germany and they always do a great job. Not sure where all the color variants were done. I am hoping this album is not brickwalled to death like the previous ones, DT12 is an abysmal listen, no dynamics at all.

I know Porcupine Tree has played the O2, possibly Marillion and Opeth, but not sure. There are no prog bands that can command a large venue anymore (non festival). Rush may have been the last to do so, Tool can do it.

Catcher10 wrote:

... has played the O2, possibly Marillion and Opeth, but not sure. There are no prog bands that can command a large venue anymore (non festival). Rush may have been the last to do so, Tool can do it.

Hi,

I think that some of the prog bands can do this, but I wonder how much of it is simply too difficult, or just not exactly an easy play for some of the bands.

I also wonder how much our fault is ... we post so many new things, that are borderline copy and the same thing, to the point that it looks like a major band cannot stand up to a whole lot of appreciation or sell enough tickets to make a good go of it.

I would like to see many of these bands, however, where they play is too far away and most of these bands will not visit the West Coast due to the expenses involved. Which is one of the reasons why I suggest more streaming by these bands to help them along. But I think that too many bands are still stuck on the old way ... and hoping to get enough folks to show up for a show ... like there weren't enough shows getting cancelled all over by many folks ... the main advantage of streaming is that you can sell a lot more tickets for a lot of fans all over the world ... but, I guess we will all die old and tired and afraid of trying the new way ... the future is more streaming, not exactly waiting and hoping for an audience to show up.

I've seen too many great shows and events fall apart because of poor sales ... and this can be fixed a lot better in different ways ... maybe we have to wait even more ... for nothing to happen ...

I don't have an answer, just a suggestion.

Edited by moshkito - November 01 2024 at 19:10

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Enchant X wrote:

I'm 57 so all grown up,I first got into DT on images and words that was a long long time ago, I was kind of hoping for something a little more mature, more subtle. For me chunk and balls isn't where it is at.

Hi,

Sometimes, and I mean sometimes, I think that the graduates from that one school, are not exactly good "artists" ... they are musicians with notes and chords ... but no one at the school knew, or could (or wanted to!!!) discuss and try to teach true improvisation and free form expressions, and then all you got are folks that ... would not exactly make it to graduate school (so to speak) because they can only do one thing. I think they are afraid of studying folks like Eno, Robert Wyatt, Art Bears/Henry Cow, and that type of creativity, because it is all centered on notes, chords and staff, not expression ...

That's just a thought/feeling, which is so different from the acting/directing world of film and theater ... musicians in most bands, I don't think have a good idea of how to "interpret" what they do beyond sounding the same as everyone else.

If I told one of the instructors that the same NOTE can be played 200 different times, to bring out different feelings ... I bet you many of them will say ... "that's not rock'n'roll" ... and thus not even consider that study valuable ... but it is really hard to conceive a director (from Peter Brook's book) saying that the repetitive moment in King Lear by his lead actor was done in at least 200 performances, and he could not think/find any of them that were similar ... it was different each and every time ... mind you ... the same words!

This is an area that I wish a lot of "progrock" would improve so it would stop sounding exactly the same as everyone else ... not very original at all! The original "progressive" bands did not have an issue with this at all! The individuality was more valuable than trying to be something or other ... and that is not something that most bands know about these days.

Edited by moshkito - November 02 2024 at 22:40

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Dellinger wrote:

I liked the song better than most of all they have released since Portnoy left.

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I'm still not sure how it will grow on me. But at least for first impression I feel the band will recover some of the spark they had lost when Portnoy left.

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Hi,

Just got to watch the Daily Doug do this piece of music, and the explanations and comments, really helped ... I think that some of the internal stuff and communication within the band is so well placed under it all, that sometimes what might sound odd, is actually a very good touch and ability ... which DD makes clear for us a lot more.

A thought I had, was how much Jordan Rudess has probably helped develop DT ... in that the transitions and changes are much smoother and well placed, as opposed to a lot of "progrock" that does them without any clear or well defined musical connections ... in this case here, DD shows us how smooth they are ... an ability for a band that is way beyond most folks ... and something that many of us may have a hard time with ... I will agree with DD here, that this is above and beyond a lot of progressive music ... the musicianship alone is not something to snuff at ... this is real musicianship ... not idealist touches.

Kinda strange that at first I thought only of ... metal that we had heard before ... which tells you that I was hearing an earlier DT that I had seen in concert before ... not what they have now ... the musicianship in this is very tight ... and this blows out a lot of stuff out of the best of the month or year out of the water ... though many will have personal reasons why it won't.

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