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Poll Question: Which 3rd album do you like more?
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^Really don´t think vocals in those songs are crap, although Haskell is my least favourite Crimson-vocalists. And anyway they´re one of my favourite Crimson songs, only little weaker song in Lizard is "Lady Of the Dancing Water" (I believe it would have been greater with for example Lake-vocals).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2018 at 02:00
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Happy family and indoor games have crap vocals. Three friends all the way

Aw, I wouldn't call them crap. They're def underwhelming, though.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2018 at 13:16
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

^Really don´t think vocals in those songs are crap, although Haskell is my least favourite Crimson-vocalists. And anyway they´re one of my favourite Crimson songs, only little weaker song in Lizard is "Lady Of the Dancing Water" (I believe it would have been greater with for example Lake-vocals).


I have heard a version of Cadence and Cascade with Lake on vocals (a demo, I think), and it does sound much better. I guess it would have been the same for Lady of the dancing water.
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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Happy family and indoor games have crap vocals. Three friends all the way


The songs are not too great either
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Three Friends Wink


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2024 at 17:17
GG for sure.
Lizard has a couple of crap tunes. Happy family and Indoor games are pretty weak tunes although there’s nice playing in them
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Love both.
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I like both, but voted for Three Friends. Smile
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I'm not a big fan of either album, but Lizard wins for featuring a song by Jon Anderson. Smile
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I really like both, a great deal.

I've gone with Lizard, which I still regard as my fave KC... but I don't see 3F as the relative disappointment voiced by some 
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I already responded in depth to this topic years ago but each is a favourite of mine by the bands. I voted for Lizard but really I should have just said both and not voted. This is terrific pairing for me. If I went for favourite duo right now from each, then it would be Gentle Giant's Acquiring the Taste and Three Fiends and King Crimson's Lizard and Red.

And I still get goosebumps just thinking about the eponymous track at the end of the Three Friends album. Glorious.

Edited by Logan - November 04 2024 at 09:44
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

And I still get goosebumps just thinking about the eponymous track at the end of the Three Friends album. Glorious.

Me too... it's a real GG highlight which also sends a shiver of delight down my spine, in a similar way to the end of Starless (Red yes, but the USA version paralyses you).
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not a big fan of either album, but Lizard wins for featuring a song by Jon Anderson. Smile

keep persevering Paul, I'd describe both as Connoisseur's albums...
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3 Friends by a thin margin, I like both album

Imagine for a moment what the vocals of Lizard would have given with the harmonious gentle giants ( Except PRA sung by Jon)
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Easily, Gentle Giant. This is my favorite GG album. It was the first album I bought from them and I love every track. Mister Class and Quality/ Three Friends is one of my favorite highlights in all of Prog.

Never cared much for Lizard. Outside the Wetton era of KC, which I'm a big fan ( Red and Larks are top 25 Prog albums), for me, KC is bit hit and miss.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2024 at 14:42
GG by many miles.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Big Sky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2024 at 14:48
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I already responded in depth to this topic years ago but each is a favourite of mine by the bands. I voted for Lizard but really I should have just said both and not voted. This is terrific pairing for me. If I went for favourite duo right now from each, then it would be Gentle Giant's Acquiring the Taste and Three Fiends and King Crimson's Lizard and Red.

And I still get goosebumps just thinking about the eponymous track at the end of the Three Friends album. Glorious.


Logan, agree with you on the Three Friends track. Just an emotionally moving song. Like you, Acquiring the Taste and Three Friends are my favorite Giant albums. Of course, GG has a very solid discography. The only true miss is Giant for a Day. Even the Missing Piece and Civilian has its moments.
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Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I already responded in depth to this topic years ago but each is a favourite of mine by the bands. I voted for Lizard but really I should have just said both and not voted. This is terrific pairing for me. If I went for favourite duo right now from each, then it would be Gentle Giant's Acquiring the Taste and Three Fiends and King Crimson's Lizard and Red.

And I still get goosebumps just thinking about the eponymous track at the end of the Three Friends album. Glorious.


Logan, agree with you on the Three Friends track. Just an emotionally moving song. Like you, Acquiring the Taste and Three Friends are my favorite Giant albums. Of course, GG has a very solid discography. The only true miss is Giant for a Day. Even the Missing Piece and Civilian has its moments.


I quite like "Spooky Boogie" off Giant for a Day. Those first eight, the self-titled to Interview, are great. And then there's good live music like Playing the Fool. I was quite obsessed with Gentle Giant when I joined this site.
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GG without much thought, I just like it a lot better. I missed this poll the first time around.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I already responded in depth to this topic years ago but each is a favourite of mine by the bands. I voted for Lizard but really I should have just said both and not voted. This is terrific pairing for me. If I went for favourite duo right now from each, then it would be Gentle Giant's Acquiring the Taste and Three Fiends and King Crimson's Lizard and Red.

And I still get goosebumps just thinking about the eponymous track at the end of the Three Friends album. Glorious.
I agree but I wouldn't have voted differently. For me there's just something about being totally immersed in Lizard's sidelong title track that is so unique. Like falling in and out of a fever dream and enjoying it... or something like that. To me Steven Wilson's remaster of the title track in particular is more essential to me than anything else he's done* (that I'm aware of). I've loved the whole album ever since I first bought it, but his remix really made it come to life in different ways - for me.

*I have nothing against his music and appreciate plenty of his remastering work.    
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