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Posted: October 29 2024 at 23:15

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"same lady, different dress", as Mayer would say LOL

Well said. Clap

And I agree, no need too many EX.

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Posted: October 29 2024 at 23:07

^ Thanks for this, Eugene. It's what I was expecting that we'd need to do, so I'll ask Cristi to add my extra biographical info into the existing EX CURIA biography to make it more complete, and change the name of the EX CURIA page to SKY SIGNALS / EX CURIA (I think we need to omit the usual 'EX' prefix from the old band name in this particular case, otherwise it will look like a typo lol!). Either he or I can then move the SKY SIGNALS 'Illumine' album to the SKY SIGNALS / EX CURIA page and add "(As Sky Signals)" to its title.

The Prog Metal team can then use the old SKY SIGNALS page ID to add their next cleared artist, and that should be it. The result will be exactly what should have happened at the outset if they'd realised at the time of the SKY SIGNALS evaluation that that SKY SIGNALS and EX CURIA were just "same lady, different dress", as Mayer would say LOL

The band started off as an Experimental/Post Metal band, and so should really stay in that sub. Many bands change the style of their music as they mature, but unfortunately PA doesn't provide a means of assigning more than one sub genre to them, and it's quite rare for the artists in our database to get moved to a different sub once they've they've been added.

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Posted: October 29 2024 at 22:23

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@Eugene, @Julien. We have discussed the subject of how to present the title of a band or artist that has changed its name since it was added to the site before in this thread, but not (as far as I know) one that's been added to the site twice - once as their old name, and then again as their new name, with album releases on both pages. Please have a look at this post in the Prog Metal team thread and give us your thoughts on what should be done. Can we allow both pages to remain and just cross reference them as Cristi suggests, or do we need to follow the existing convention that we use for artists who have simply changed their name since they were added (and thus have all their releases on the same page), and rename the page title of this band's original entry to include its new name as well as its old one, followed by a migration of the album it released under its new name to the (now renamed) page that was created under its old name? Does that make sense? Embarrassed

In my opinion, in this case, when the 'new' band has only one album, makes sense to merge 2 bands. Technically it's possible (move the sole SKY SIGNALS album to EX CURIA page, change the band name and then use the former SKY SIGNALS artist ID for some newly added band).

The only problem is EX in the name, because the resulting name would be SKY SIGNALS / EX EX CURIA.

I think it's up to Metal Teams to decide. Additionally, EX CURIA belongs to Experimental/Post Metal while SKY SIGNALS is in Progressive Metal.

Edited by NotAProghead - October 29 2024 at 22:24

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Posted: October 29 2024 at 22:00

^ Thanks, David. I guess 'slower' search can give more results. Smile

Julien, do we need to fix them manually or your script will kill the beasts?

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Posted: October 29 2024 at 19:56

Sorry to revisit an old nightmare, but I stumbled upon some more FLAC in the releases information section of one of TCat's album additions tonight I'm afraid. Did a quick Google search and found a few more too:

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64978 (on Bandcamp).

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17312 (not available via Bandcamp, but it's available from various other sites such as Amazon and Apple Music, so doubtless available in other formats besides FLAC). The release date for the CD is given as 25th Jan 1991 on Musicbrainz, with ECM Records 827 419-2 as a second label reference.

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64503 (on Bandcamp).

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64363 (on Bandcamp).

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6088 (not available via Bandcamp, but CD Baby no longer sells music downloads either, so needs to be replaced by digital album).

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66936 (on Bandcamp).

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64722 (says 26x FLAC download - Hammock Music, but it's available on Bandcamp in all the usual different formats).

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=35679 (on Bandcamp - mentions MP3 as well as FLAC but would still be better to just say digital album).

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=41818 (on Bandcamp, and Mike's official website actually just says: Along with the CD of Wing Beat Elastic, one also gets a free digital audio download that includes an exclusive digital booklet.

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Posted: October 29 2024 at 14:18

Louis, it took noticeable amount of my time to sort out your very innacurate Marillion additions (both forgivable for PA newcomers, but awful for PA collabs). Please be more accurate in future.

Accurate??? How can you omit to include some songs of the album of Sunday in the database?

River

Bridge

Living with the Big Lie

Runaway

The Hollow Man

Born to Run

White Paper

Sugar Mice

Genie

- E&O Team: Nothing from Sunday was omitted on Friday album.

Now I've added Sunday album: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=87239

Many "thanks" to Marillion for releasing two different double CDs and DVD/BD, all with identical cover. LOL

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Posted: October 29 2024 at 13:49

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^ Thanks, will report to admins.

Thanks. I guess hold off on the Marillion, I see it's still being edited and now it's been divided into a Live album and DVD/Video release.

I think it's correct, because CDs and videos (DVDs and BR) are separate and different releases. That's why I didn't ask admins to delete one of them and decided to edit both instead.

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Posted: October 29 2024 at 13:44

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Gordy wrote:

NotAProghead wrote:

^ Thanks, will report to admins.

Thanks. I guess hold off on the Marillion, I see it's still being edited and now it's been divided into a Live album and DVD/Video release.

They released 2 cd one for Sunday Show and another one for the Friday show. THe blu-ray covers only part 2 of the sunday show and not the first part of the sunday show. That's why i added 2 (2CD) albums. Now we don't have the first part of the sunday show. Is this complicated enough?? Confused

Louis, it took noticeable amount of my time to sort out your very innacurate Marillion additions (both forgivable for PA newcomers, but awful for PA collabs). Please be more accurate in future.

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Posted: October 29 2024 at 01:44

@Eugene, @Julien. We have discussed the subject of how to present the title of a band or artist that has changed its name since it was added to the site before in this thread, but not (as far as I know) one that's been added to the site twice - once as their old name, and then again as their new name, with album releases on both pages. Please have a look at this post in the Prog Metal team thread and give us your thoughts on what should be done. Can we allow both pages to remain and just cross reference them as Cristi suggests, or do we need to follow the existing convention that we use for artists who have simply changed their name since they were added (and thus have all their releases on the same page), and rename the page title of this band's original entry to include its new name as well as its old one, followed by a migration of the album it released under its new name to the (now renamed) page that was created under its old name? Does that make sense? Embarrassed

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Posted: October 28 2024 at 23:48

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^ Thanks, will report to admins.

Thanks. I guess hold off on the Marillion, I see it's still being edited and now it's been divided into a Live album and DVD/Video release.

Edited by rdtprog - October 28 2024 at 23:49

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^ Thanks, will report to admins.

Thanks. I guess hold off on the Marillion, I see it's still being edited and now it's been divided into a Live album and DVD/Video release.

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Posted: October 28 2024 at 20:50

What is going on? There are two further consecutive duplicates that need to be deleted:

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=87234

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=87232

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^ edited

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Posted: October 28 2024 at 09:52

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^ Thanks, David, done.

I had to omit the recoding-mixing details because of the limits of the "Release info" field (an error occurs if the text is too long).

No problem, Eugene. Those details aren't of any importance. I only included them because they were available on the Discogs page and I just thought: "Well, why not"? LOL

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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=78312

1. Out of Love (4:15)
2. The River Knows (3:41)
3. Tears to Dust (3:28)
4. Sing Your Tune (6:36)

Total Time 18:00

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^ Thanks, David, done.

I had to omit the recoding-mixing details because of the limits of the "Release info" field (an error occurs if the text is too long).

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Posted: October 27 2024 at 19:47

Dave Bainbridge - To the Far Away: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=73197 - Two additional versions available with bonus tracks, which are currently not listed on the page.

Standard 2CD version: https://www.discogs.com/release/21335365-Dave-Bainbridge-To-The-Far-Away.

Deluxe limited edition version: https://www.discogs.com/release/24607094-Dave-Bainbridge-To-The-Far-Away.

Bonus Tracks (CD2):

1. Sea Gazer - Acoustic Mix (6:14)

2. Clear Skies - More Guitar Ending (1:35)

3. Amidst The Storm (4:13)

4. Cathedral Thinkers - Piano, Bass, Drums Mix (2:55)

5. Downtime Jam (5:15)

6. A Lincolnshire Country Lane (1:00)

7. A World Without Shadows (2:33)

8. Infinitude (Region Of The Stars) - Extended Version (8:12)

9. Lost At Sea (1:31)

10. Sea Gazer - Demo (3:14)

11. Girl And The Magical Sky - Demo (2:25)

12. Rain And Sun - Demo (2:35)

13. Clear Skies - Demo (2:40)

14. Ghost Light - Demo (9:38)

15. To Gain The Ocean - Demo (1:21)

16. Speed Your Journey - Demo (1:33)

17. Song For Charlie (3:51)

Total Time 60:45

Recorded during 2020 and 2021.

Dave Bainbridge's parts recorded at The Barn, Lincolnshire, UK and Arlette Studio, Baltimore, USA.

Frank van Essen's parts recorded at Studio Frank van Essen, Collendoorn, Netherlands.

Nigel and Julie Cameron's parts recorded at Raindance Studios, Stourbridge, UK.

Sally Minnear's, Iain Hornal's, Troy Donockley's, Jon Poole's, Jonas Pap's and Martin Nolan's parts recorded in their respective home studios.

Mixed in June 2021 at Arlette Studio, Baltimore, USA and August 2021 at The Barn, Lincolnshire, UK.

Mastered at Lowland Masters.

2CD Open Sky - OPENSKYCD034 (December 2021, UK) Available in two distinct versions. A standard version packaged in a standard, slim, clear tray jewel case with a 16 page booklet and an additional double disc edition 4 page booklet - and a deluxe, limited edition box set version packaged in a rectangular black box containing the standard version, plus 6 photo postcards, a 100 page hardback photo book and a signed and numbered certificate.

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^ No problem, done. Smile

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