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felona
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 08:40 |
oliverstoned wrote:
I find this band painful: too much breaks, rythm changes, bad singing...overrated in my opinion. |
Sssssh! keep your voice down ... d'you want to get flamed ![](smileys/smiley5.gif) ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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oliverstoned
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 08:43 |
Ha ha ! i know this is provocation.
But i'm sincere when i say it's bad!
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 09:25 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Ha ha ! i know this is provocation.
But i'm sincere when i say it's bad! |
The fact that you don't like, doesn't make it bad does it!![](smileys/smiley17.gif)
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Velvetclown
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:14 |
Hear, he'll do it all for you, you will see it, wise and knowing what to do, what to be and every word is ........
Lies, he only tells the truth, for he means it, means, not anything he says, eyes unseen, but everything is ........
So sincere, so sincere, so sincere, so sin.
Yes, that is to say no, understanding wrong, he makes his promise right, with your hand you'll never know why.
So sincere, so sincere, so sincere, so sincere.
So, sincere his thoughts so full, always empty Good, or maybe things are bad, so sincere, and every word is ........
So sincere, so ........
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felona
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:18 |
... are those GG lyrics ?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:43 |
^So Sincere, from Power and the Glory!
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 11:23 |
A killer song live - transformed from being a quirky little curioso on
the album to a 20th avant garde classical song bursting into an insane
rock workout and concluding with a completely gratuitous five-man
percussion session. Bloody good lyrics too!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 17:43 |
PRETENTIOUS FOR THE SAKE OF IT.
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:00 |
oliverstoned wrote:
I find this band painful: too much breaks, rythm changes, bad singing...overrated in my opinion. |
So we are two to notice that the singing is not very pleasant to the ears. Once again, guys : if you want to discover the real roots of GG (stop telling that they were the first ones to play this kind of music), check out the music of the troubadours, they played with much more soul and more pleasant vocals.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:25 |
I bought SPOCKS BEARD and after that PFM (Italy). They both try to
imitate once in a while GENTLE GIANT. This sounds only ridicilous to
me. I would say: GENESIS. YES and GENTLE GIANT introduced such a new
compository quality to Rock music that all the bands afterwards tried
to copy.
There are only a few bands that had their own thing in prog music. The
rest are "eclectists" (does this word have a meaning in English?).
Yeah, GENTLE GIANT are great. Unforgetable.
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lucas
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:29 |
jojim wrote:
I would say: GENESIS. YES and GENTLE GIANT introduced such a new compository quality to Rock music that all the bands afterwards tried to copy.
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Add ELP. In fact most of the italian prog bands sound like ELP.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:35 |
lucas wrote:
jojim wrote:
I would say: GENESIS. YES and GENTLE
GIANT introduced such a new compository quality to Rock music that all
the bands afterwards tried to copy.
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Add ELP. In fact most of the italian prog bands sound like ELP. |
They take the good bits of ELP, Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Tull etc to
varying degrees, swish it around with a mediterrean vibe and MAKE IT
WORK. Italian Prog is gorgeous and you're missing out if you don't
appreciate it.
Btw, Moog - one of my favourite GG photos ever! ![](smileys/smiley27.gif) that cello!
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felona
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:42 |
For me ITALIAN is the Caviar of prog ...er, that can't be right, I hate Caviar ... ok, then ts the champagne of Prog ...
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The Church "After Everything Now This"
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:47 |
felona wrote:
For me ITALIAN is the Caviar of prog ...er, that
can't be right, I hate Caviar ... ok, then ts the champagne of Prog ...
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I think you'll find it's certainly a genre that is favoured by (without
wanting to sound up my own arse, but inevitably doing so, especially
having now drawn attention to the fact...) conneisseurs of the genre.
Likewise Gentle Giant is very much in favour with people who've
listened to prog regularly for some time and know the ins and outs of
the movement. Italian, Canterbury, Krautrock, the more sophisticated
Symphonic groups, and avant prog are the areas of prog which often take
time to appreciate, but they're worth the effort. It's just a case of
Acquiring the Taste!
Note: Apologies for being a snob. I blame it on exam stress and sleep deprivation.
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goose
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:49 |
If you listen to it to much you end up doing stupid things and feeling sick?
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:51 |
Trouserpress wrote:
felona wrote:
For me ITALIAN is the Caviar of prog ...er, that can't be right, I hate Caviar ... ok, then ts the champagne of Prog ... ![](smileys/smiley36.gif) |
I think you'll find it's certainly a genre that is favoured by (without wanting to sound up my own arse, but inevitably doing so, especially having now drawn attention to the fact...) conneisseurs of the genre. Likewise Gentle Giant is very much in favour with people who've listened to prog regularly for some time and know the ins and outs of the movement. Italian, Canterbury, Krautrock, the more sophisticated Symphonic groups, and avant prog are the areas of prog which often take time to appreciate, but they're worth the effort. It's just a case of Acquiring the Taste! ![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Note: Apologies for being a snob. I blame it on exam stress and sleep deprivation.
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Apologising for being a snob?...You are stressed and tired!![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:52 |
goose wrote:
If you listen to it to much you end up doing stupid things and feeling sick? ![](smileys/smiley5.gif) |
I certainly do... I remember the night I listened to every album from
the debut right up to the Missing Piece without stopping. I woke up
under a hedge in nothing but a bin liner with a semi-thawed chicken and
a corkscrew... That was some evening.
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goose
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:53 |
No no, it's Italian prog that's like champagne, not GG!
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felona
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:54 |
Trouserpress wrote:
felona wrote:
For me ITALIAN is the Caviar of prog ...er, that can't be right, I hate Caviar ... ok, then ts the champagne of Prog ... ![](smileys/smiley36.gif) |
I think you'll find it's certainly a genre that is favoured by (without wanting to sound up my own arse, but inevitably doing so, especially having now drawn attention to the fact...) conneisseurs of the genre. Likewise Gentle Giant is very much in favour with people who've listened to prog regularly for some time and know the ins and outs of the movement. Italian, Canterbury, Krautrock, the more sophisticated Symphonic groups, and avant prog are the areas of prog which often take time to appreciate, but they're worth the effort. It's just a case of Acquiring the Taste! ![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Note: Apologies for being a snob. I blame it on exam stress and sleep deprivation.
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I do agree with you there TP ![](smileys/smiley32.gif)
*motherly hug* so go and get some sleep .... ![](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
and good luck in those exams ... which ones? Comedy ones? ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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felona
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:56 |
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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