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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

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Brandi Wynne, a bass player for the Ozric Tentacles, honed her craft through the Music Synthesis Studies program at Berklee College of Music. Her vibrant energy contributes significantly to this legendary trippy band's distinctive spacey sound, making her a standout musician in their lineup.


Brandi is no longer in the band though.
Given that Brandi Wynne seems to still be an official member of Ozric Tentacles, Vinny Shillito—who has previously toured with the band from 1990 to 1991 and from 2007 to 2009—is essentially a stand-in, in my opinion.

Not still. She was not a member for a while after she and Ed Wynn ended their relationship.
I am aware of Ed and Brandi's split. We shall see, however, if it endures indefinitely.
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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

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I am aware of Ed and Brandi's split. We shall see, however, if it endures indefinitely.

Hi,

She plays in a piece or two in Ed's recent album, but in that one concert a few months ago on the net (maybe earlier), she was not the bass player ... my concern is that she might be too regimented and not "free enough" of all the chords to be able to flow/float a bit better, thus making for a good backing to Ed, but not providing enough bits and pieces to challenge him a bit ... but then, neither did the bass player in that concert ... when all the musicians seemed to play second fiddle to Ed. I think the relationship might be fine (because of Silas?), but I don't think she will become the regular bass player again. Having met them, I have to say she is nice ... and I would like to see her venture out to different material ... and not so stuck on riffing material. Somehow that is so much like the folks out of Berklee than otherwise ... she needs to branch out, and maybe even do some real off the curtains, jazz ... so she can mature on the bass some more. 

As far as Ed and OT ... I don't think they are going anywhere or getting any better. It's getting to be much of the same thing now.


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The Italian band Frogg, which formed in 2018, does a fantastic job of centring Letizia Merlo's vocals within a complex prog metal framework. That way, their music's emphasis draws even more attention to Merlo's wonderful singing.
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

AWESOME list, Olivier! Here are a few more:

While huge lists like that don't make much sense to me.
                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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I have already mentioned instrumental progressive rock band Silent Grace in the "Ukrainian Prog" thread, but never mind—this splendid band deserves more attention regardless. The band's remarkable sound is really defined by Natalia Siekierzinska's viola playing—a brilliant fusion of innovative improvisation and virtuosic talent that creates astonishing soundscapes and evokes a sense of vastness and otherworldliness.
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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

I have already mentioned instrumental progressive rock band Silent Grace in the "Ukrainian Prog" thread, but never mind—this splendid band deserves more attention regardless. The band's remarkable sound is really defined by Natalia Siekierzinska's viola playing—a brilliant fusion of innovative improvisation and virtuosic talent that creates astonishing soundscapes and evokes a sense of vastness and otherworldliness.




Hi,

Quite nice, but hardly original. I haven't checked but if this is the first album this would be special and probably make us look forward to what is next. There is, some serious musicianship here, which is nice and probably better than most fusion, or hard rock bands out there that seem to formulaic and repetitive, but I'm not sure that this is as "innovative" as we think, unless we specify that metal doesn't do violins or violas ... which would be a crazy idea and comment ... it works beautifully here. 

And I would like to hear more. As long as it is not "the same thing" ... both of these cuts are close to it, but the viola makes it different and better.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Quite nice, but hardly original.
It's as original as a prog band can muster these days, and yet being firmly ensconced within the genre's well-trodden confines, for let's face it, everything's been done to death.
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Can't beat Ruth Underwood!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqp71DOJ3aY
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Carina Taurer, composer, keyboard player and one of the two founding members of the new French symphonic prog band 'Oddleaf', who released a really impressive debut album called 'Where Ideal and Denial Collide' just three days ago. She and the co-founder of the band, flautist Mathieu Rossi, are also members of the medieval music trio 'Vagarem', who perform their a capella polyphonic songs at medieval and renaissance festivals all over France and Europe.



That footage is from their first concert on 8th October 2022 at "La Coconnerie" in France, when they had a male lead vocalist named Olivier Marcaud. He left the band at the end of 2023, and was replaced by the excellent female singer Adeline Gurtner (formerly of progressive metal band Resilience, crossover prog band Akin and experimental/post metal band Akroma) who performs all the lead vocals on the album itself.



They've performed live with Adeline on vocals several times this summer, but I couldn't find any footage showing them playing live with both women on stage.

Edit: There are some short, rather grainy clips of the band performing live earlier this year with both women on stage in this promotional video for the debut album: 



Hopefully they'll upload some of those clips to their YouTube channel as full videos in due course. Smile


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Five pages in and, not unexpectedly, no mention of Covet's guitar wonder Yvette Young.




...before she picked up the guitar, Young was already an accomplished pianist and violinist. From her Piano EP, "Jolt" (with Covet's then-drummer Forrest Rice, and former bassist David Adamiak lurking about).
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Gender Studies is a Ukrainian progressive rock ensemble featuring a female vocalist (Yuliia Pynylo), a female violinist (Anna Lavreniuk), and a female lyricist (Kateryna Portniahina, who also creates the beautiful illustrations that embellish the band's releases). The eclectic style and brilliant concepts of Gender Studies should be sufficient to entice anyone keen on discovering more about this relatively obscure Ukrainian prog band. You should listen to their 2024 six-track album in its entirety if you have time. You won't be disappointed.
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thank you for your attention David and i agree with you ,quality over quantity.

however it is hard to find a list of progrock female singers and for people like me who appreciate their voice as a  wonderfull musical instrument this may help.

i selected not only one album but one track for every band (unless there are different singers) and after  listening to them over a year i am sure they are gems to my taste.
so it is not too much time to check them all

of course some are poppy(i am more a poppy than a folky or metal guy) ,but all but one listed in PA and less catchy tracks wait for you on the LPs

my main concern is about streaming , but you can buy the albums you really like after surfing /streaming and support the artists;

and a  big thank to the legendary brufordfreak for his nice comment

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KT Chang is the Elephant Gym's star and front woman. She's a phenomenal bass player! According to Wikipedia, just like her brother, who plays guitar in the same jazz-fusion-tinged math-rock trio from Taiwan, she has classical training from her mother.
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Meanwhile, over in Japan, superstar bassist Juna Serita has been turning heads ever since her old band Tokyo Groove Jyoshi's phenomenal cover of Tower of Power's "What is Hip?" went viral five years ago.

Since then, Juna has recorded as a solo artist and with her new heavy fusion quartet Muses.

Earlier this year, Juna dropped this beautiful slice of trio prog...album forthcoming!?
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Hi,

K. T. Chang is very good and enjoyable, and she plays like it.

Juna was a nice listen, though I did not think that the music itself was a good show for her ability ... I'm not sure, but I think the music is too all over the place to help showcase her skills.

I much prefer that Hindu Lady that plays like a monster. I can't even remember her name. THAT is a bass player, and we can only hope that she takes Bootsie, and everyone else out for a ride, on much bigger and more expressive music than what we consider "progressive" which is getting repetitive and boring, and not helping the players as much as it should ... think Jaco ... the music was new then ... and it made a difference. It's almost like all of them have to do this and that and this and that ... and the music itself is secondary to the gymnastics of playing! I'm not sure that was what "made" so many players great. The music came with it and it was new .... helping the player accentuate the details even better.


Edited by moshkito - October 24 2024 at 12:28
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