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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

It may seem so, but I can tell that The Album and CttE are my Yes fond-ofs while I find Fragile overrated. 
Today, I say (in chronological order):

The Album
Fragile
CttE

as after new listenings to Fragile, it has clicked for me with this album, so I even like a lot the shhh! vocals. Big smile

And yet, further listening to Fragile is a bit of a struggle and a new challenge to me, and interesting concerning the future. 
Also, a new discovery: Yes was the most Pop-influenced of the classical Big Six. 


Edited by David_D - October 08 2024 at 08:15
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^same exact thought
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

CttE, Fragile & Relayer for me

Same here although the Yes album would be right behind them for me.
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CttE, Fragile & Relayer for me
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

It wasn't written in a style that would sooth everybody . It's not Supertramp .
 


Supertramp? Soothing?

This is kind of like saying that Pink Floyd's "Goodbye Blue Sky" or King Crimson's "Islands" are soothing. Just because something is on the quieter end of the spectrum doesn't make it "soothing".

Please listen to (in their entireties) "Asylum", "Ain't Nobody but Me", or the post-indictment cataclysm that closes "Crime of the Century". Yes, the band did do some pop material later in their career, but even that could only very rarely be described as "soothing".

I'm sure somebody somewhere would even describe "The Remembering" as soothing.


People who are fanatical whores for sing-song melody tend to go for songs like "Sister Moonshine" or "Dreamer" which has probably been used for children's movies . Supertramp are a great band no doubt...but I see people who go for Supertramp's Pop sensibilities finding The Remembering revolting..and perhaps even to the point of outright saying..."WTF is that?? "
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

It wasn't written in a style that would sooth everybody . It's not Supertramp .
 

Supertramp? Soothing?

This is kind of like saying that Pink Floyd's "Goodbye Blue Sky" or King Crimson's "Islands" are soothing. Just because something is on the quieter end of the spectrum doesn't make it "soothing".

Please listen to (in their entireties) "Asylum", "Ain't Nobody but Me", or the post-indictment cataclysm that closes "Crime of the Century". Yes, the band did do some pop material later in their career, but even that could only very rarely be described as "soothing".

I'm sure somebody somewhere would even describe "The Remembering" as soothing.
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If I listen to Fragile just for the music and the flow of the entire album I don't think about band members taking solos. Don't think about that. Cans and Brahams..Mood For A Day are interspersed between songs. The instrumentalist aspect to that is part of the overall contents and concentrating on making the pieces fit alongside of the songs. I think they did an excellent job at putting it together.

I happen to like Topographic a lot. Literally it's characteristics whether spiritual or not are intriguing in some strange way. I like the cover and I sort of like the concept though I have to be in a certain mood to actually enjoy anything about it. It certainly doesn't reach everyone. The music certainly isn't commercially viable and it doesn't reach out to kiss everyone. Some people are appalled by it. It wasn't written in a style that would sooth everybody . It's not Supertramp .

I guess if you spent the night in a cabin during a massive snow blizzard the album would come to life.

The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close To The Edge are outstanding accomplishment! It's not a math test but certainly they were creating a style of writing that would be influential for years to come. Going For The One has certain tracks that are a must to hear..however a few of them I can do without.

Relayer was exactly as Jon Anderson described it..a very Grey album. Patrick Moraz was described as playing a very schizoid type of style. At this point the band were taking a darker direction in music.
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The Yes Album
Fragile
Going For The One
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Every time I'm tempted to think that Fragile is bogged down by the solo pieces I think "Oh except for Mood for a Day, that one's really nice... and I guess The Fish is cool too, nice jam... and as short as Five Per Cent for Nothing is, it's still interesting and I dig it... and I guess We Have Heaven is actually sort of pleasant... but other than THOSE ones, I dislike the all solo tracks... wait..."

Guess it's just the Wakeman cover that isn't very stimulating.

To me, the most important is how the album works as a whole, and roughly speaking, I find the more experimenting and non-rockish solo tracks to be very good contrast to the more melodic and rocky group compositions. They make the album as a whole more interesting and to me, there's still a very good flow the whole way through. So yes, today, after new listenings to Fragile, it's definitely one of my favourite three Yes albums.


Edited by David_D - October 01 2024 at 10:33
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Open Your Eyes, which was never supposed to be a Yes album, it was a Squier and Sherwood project, became a Yes album because of management.

Did Yes really degrade as band from the late 80s onwards? Open your Eyes is also very nauseating. I think Drama was the last great album from them [though technically I have still couple of their later day albums to listen to; but I don't have high hopes anymore].

Agreed. Yes (like Genesis) were mostly great until 1980 then after it would be too kind to say their output was patchy. At least Genesis came to a screaching halt with Calling All Stations. Yes continued onwards, sideways and eventually downwards. Great to see them touring but after Yes Symphonic they could have safely called it a day IMO.
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Open Your Eyes, which was never supposed to be a Yes album, it was a Squier and Sherwood project, became a Yes album because of management.

Did Yes really degrade as band from the late 80s onwards? Open your Eyes is also very nauseating. I think Drama was the last great album from them [though technically I have still couple of their later day albums to listen to; but I don't have high hopes anymore].
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

How about the UNHOLY TRINITY??

  • Big Generator 
  • Fly From Here 
  • Heaven & Earth
LOL


Big Generator does not belong with those IMO, Open Your Eyes is much much worse. Even Union. 


Yep. Big Generator definitely does not belong with those. I agree. Open Your Eyes should be in the bottom three. Union I kind of like though. FFH doesn't belong either actually. Maybe The Quest should be in there.


Agreed. Big Generator is an OK album. I'm Running and Shoot High Aim Low are good tracks. Open Your Eyes, which was never supposed to be a Yes album, it was a Squier and Sherwood project, became a Yes album because of management. It's a bad album. Heaven and Earth I have heard once and have no desire to hear again.

Union has some pretty good tracks. The problem is that it ended up being an Anderson and Elias project that was pushed through by having every session musician in LA play on it when various Yes members were unavailable ( some of whom were not totally committed to a Yes Union).
Wakeman calling it the "Onion" album did not help. Not a good album, but hardly A bad one either. Great tour though.
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How bad can Big Generator be? I have forgotten any memories associated with this album, so I think I need to listen to it again.

Edit: Okay, it was bland and boring. By the second half of the album, I couldn't care anymore about it.



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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

How about the UNHOLY TRINITY??

  • Big Generator 
  • Fly From Here 
  • Heaven & Earth
LOL




Actually, it should be

Fly from Here
Heaven & Earth
The Quest


Compared to those, Big Generator is Time and a Word.
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^ I like ALL of the post-Magnification albums they did. Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2024 at 15:12
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

How about the UNHOLY TRINITY??

  • Big Generator 
  • Fly From Here 
  • Heaven & Earth
LOL

Big Generator does not belong with those IMO, Open Your Eyes is much much worse. Even Union. 

Yep. Big Generator definitely does not belong with those. I agree. Open Your Eyes should be in the bottom three. Union I kind of like though. FFH doesn't belong either actually. Maybe The Quest should be in there.

Well, I don't like any post Magnification albums they did. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2024 at 14:12
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

How about the UNHOLY TRINITY??

  • Big Generator 
  • Fly From Here 
  • Heaven & Earth
LOL

Big Generator does not belong with those IMO, Open Your Eyes is much much worse. Even Union. 

Yep. Big Generator definitely does not belong with those. I agree. Open Your Eyes should be in the bottom three. Union I kind of like though. FFH doesn't belong either actually. Maybe The Quest should be in there.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

How about the UNHOLY TRINITY??

  • Big Generator 
  • Fly From Here 
  • Heaven & Earth
LOL

Big Generator does not belong with those IMO, Open Your Eyes is much much worse. Even Union. 
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

How about the UNHOLY TRINITY??

  • Big Generator 
  • Fly From Here 
  • Heaven & Earth
LOL

Replace Fly From Here (which is not perfect, but still very underrated) with Union or Open Your Eyes!
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How about the UNHOLY TRINITY??

  • Big Generator 
  • Fly From Here 
  • Heaven & Earth
LOL
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