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Poll Question: Which of these songs do you like or are your favourites?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
9 [10.11%]
14 [15.73%]
2 [2.25%]
20 [22.47%]
1 [1.12%]
2 [2.25%]
5 [5.62%]
7 [7.87%]
6 [6.74%]
4 [4.49%]
15 [16.85%]
4 [4.49%]
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    Posted: September 15 2024 at 12:51

These are some more of the songs which for the largest part have been mentioned in the Political Prog thread, and still, you can vote 
for as many as you wish (multiple votes allowed).


Here's the previous poll if it still should have some interest: Thinking politically / socially-engaged songs (2) 

Enjoy!  Tongue


Edited by David_D - September 17 2024 at 13:11
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2024 at 12:56
I could vote for most of those David if it came down to tracks I like, but being as you are asking for their  'Socially engaged' credentials, I have gone for Aqualung, which I have always found particularly affecting in this regard..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2024 at 13:04
To be honest I don't normally pay enough attention to lyrics to get a genuine understanding that the song is about. Aqualung is my favorite song out of these and I must have heard it more than fifty times. But I only know that some old pig with shabby clothes and a runny nose is sitting on a park bench, watching little girls.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2024 at 13:19
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

To be honest I don't normally pay enough attention to lyrics to get a genuine understanding that the song is about. Aqualung is my favorite song out of these and I must have heard it more than fifty times. But I only know that some old pig with shabby clothes and a runny nose is sitting on a park bench, watching little girls.

LOL   And then, even it is about an "old pig", I think that the social content of this song is intended to be much more than just that.

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^I don't doubt that, but I haven't picked up on what that deeper social content is about:)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2024 at 13:38
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^I don't doubt that, but I haven't picked up on what that deeper social content is about:)

Well, I look at it in the way of a Marxist interpretation, according to which this song tries to show how social conditions, due to the way a society is organized and functioning, have very much influence on people's life and social behaviour.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2024 at 13:39
Technically, at least how I use the term, the Heldon is not a song as it has no lyrics. I like it however. I have not paid much attention to lyrics bu can quote a fair amount of "Aqualung". I'm giving that another vote. My favourite here is VdGG's "Childlike Faith in Childhood's End" (one of my very favourite bands) even if I cannot quote it nearly so well. I will give "Supper's Ready" a vote too
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Voted for the half a dozen I like
Strange that there is no Pink Floyd's Animals songs in the poll
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2024 at 13:48

Actually, as I see it, "Aqualong" is about a big tragedy, and the lyrics can make me rather sad.
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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

Strange that there is no Pink Floyd's Animals songs in the poll

A very good point, and I'll include "Dogs" in the next poll in this series.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^I don't doubt that, but I haven't picked up on what that deeper social content is about:)


Well, I look at it in the way of a Marxist interpretation, according to which this song tries to show how social conditions, due to the way a society is organized and functioning, have very much influence on people's life and social behaviour.

Ok. If you say so:) I know every word and can sing along to the whole song, but I still don't really know what Ian or I am singing about.
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ELP!
Floyd!
Genesis!
Heldon!
Osibisa!
Tull!
Wakeman!
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Ok. If you say so:) I know every word and can sing along to the whole song, but I still don't really know what Ian or I am singing about.

Here's a suggestion for a rather detailed interpretation of "Aqualung" by Al Melchior:

Compassion and Fear About the Homeless

In listening to “Aqualung,” you’ve likely sensed that Anderson has a variety of emotional responses to the song’s character. That’s because “Aqualung”’s story is a reflection of Anderson’s response to a photo of a homeless man taken by Franks. He told Guitar World in a 1999 interview that he “had feelings of guilt about the homeless, as well as fear and insecurity with people like that who seem a little scary.” This combination of emotions informed Anderson’s perspective as the narrator of his story of Aqualung, a character based on the man in Franks’ photo.

In the first section of “Aqualung,” Anderson and Franks begin to sketch the character, initially leaning on Anderson’s more fearful feelings.

Sitting on a park bench
Eyeing little girls with bad intent
Snot is running down his nose
Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes
Hey, Aqualung
Drying in the cold sun
Watching as the frilly panties run
Hey, Aqualung

Then we see the compassionate side of Anderson’s reaction in the remainder of this section.

Feeling like a dead duck
Spitting out pieces of his broken luck
Whoa, Aqualung

As Anderson and Franks move into the song’s quieter, slower second section, they maintain their focus on Aqualung’s poor condition. They also bring attention to the small ways Aqualung shows resilience.

Sun streaking cold, an old man wandering lonely
Taking time the only way he knows
Leg hurting bad as he bends to pick a dog-end
He goes down to the bog and warms his feet

Towards the end of this section, Anderson and Franks go a step beyond recognizing Aqualung’s humanity from a distance. Anderson breaks from his role as narrator, approaching Aqualung and letting him know he is a friend.

Aqualung my friend, don’t you start away uneasy
You poor old sot, you see, it’s only me

As the tempo picks up for the third section, Anderson progresses towards an increased familiarity with Aqualung. He reminisces with him about a difficult winter.

Do you still remember December’s foggy freeze
When the ice that clings on to your beard
Was screaming agony?

Anderson and Franks do a wonderful job of fleshing out the range of emotional responses we can have when encountering someone who is homeless. In transitioning gradually from a more distant appraisal of Aqualung to a familiar and friendly one makes it easy for us to follow their story.

(from the site https://americansongwriter.com/the-meaning-of-aqualung-by-jethro-tull/ )


Edited by David_D - September 15 2024 at 14:49
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

Strange that there is no Pink Floyd's Animals songs in the poll


A very good point, and I'll include "Dogs" in the next poll in this series.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2024 at 14:35
Vote for Aqualung.

Todd Rundgren's Bag Lady is a recommended song about the homeless.

A lyric excerpt

"Even Son of Sam sees her sleeping
She's not worth the bother..."

Edited by Grumpyprogfan - September 15 2024 at 14:42
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Vote for Aqualung.

Todd Rundgren's Bag Lady is a recommended song about the homeless.

A lyric excerpt

"Even Son of Sam sees her sleeping
She's not worth the bother..."

Sorry, Grumpy, but this song doesn't fulfill my criteria for which songs to include.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2024 at 16:06

As generous as I am, all these songs except one get my votes. Big smile
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Aqualung and Childlike Faith... I do like Tarkus and Supper's Ready, but they appear on too many lists. I like most of DSOTM and all of Animals more than Money. 
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Maybe Aqualung.
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For social content, Aqualung.
Welcome to the middle of the film.
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