Victorian Prog?

Hi,

I wonder, however, how much of all this was more of a sequence and continuation of England's incredible large history of folk music and how so many bands, have continually replay-ed so many pieces in new styles and ways. 

In that sense, the English history of folk music is so huge as to be really difficult to consider any of those bands listed as "original", being that in most cases they are simply repeating the ideas with, or without the lyrics. Gryphon is interesting, but if you change the title of each and every piece and its covers, all of a sudden I am not sure that folks would consider it Victorian, or folkish. 

At this time, I am not familiar enough with Comus and Tudor Lodge. But it's not hard to realize how long this history is, and how well remembered it is, when you hear a Fairport Convention or Steeleye Span do a piece that is more than a hundred years old ... Matty Groves, seems to have come from the days of Shakespeare, for example.

Stranger still is the grouping of "Prog-Folk" being mostly stuff that has such a huge history ....

Hi,

Sometimes I wonder how much of this is simply what you read and study in school, and how "average" it could/should/might be considered. This is not to say that Bronte ... suggests Victorian anything ... her time was up way before the Victorian days, and the sisters would be a really bad example for the majority of the Victorian anything where women had more freedoms than what so much literature shown tends to suggest ... and it likely helped women get their vote and stature later.

mellotronwave wrote: ... The Madhatter logo is a colorized version of a John Teniel** 's original illustration in the first edition of Lewis*** Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland (1865)/Through the looking glass (1871). ... *Victorian era (1837/1901) ** Sir John Teniel (1820/1914) *** Lewis Caroll (1832/1898)

I have reservations about these folks ... none of them really represent the Victorian era in the same way that it is "known" ... which in terms of literature would be materials that fit a lot more later in the 19th Century ... and the likes of the Pre-Raphaelites would fit this era way better than the stuff mentioned here ... but I think we're being too selective and not open minded ... I might not be exactly correct (and I'm not the scholar on these things) ... but in my book the Victorian era is known for a lot more than just a few books that were, essentially, out of time. Lewis Carroll's book, I tended to think was a styled idea based on drugs and what I often think of a copy of Edgar Allan Poe, without the "seriousness" ... although I tend to think that it only fits in the Victorian era because of the young girl thing ... which is joked and poked at senseless. 

Interesting thought and idea ... honestly I am not sure how to respond to it, since the majority of "Victorian" anything is often related to the age of freedoms in England and the sexy literature that is known to be "pornography", a lot of which has much more "history" about it, than the majority of quasi anything literature.

I would agree that it doesn't describe Genesis as a whole, but Nursery Cryme is dripping with victoriana. They even name drop the period in "Return of the Giant Hogweed"!