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    Posted: September 05 2024 at 10:39
Instead of writing "our first favorite Prog Rock-albums", include early discoveries, that you never associated with Prog, later located in some sub-genre here along with the usual suspects.

So if more or less relevant albums by Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Tangerine Dream, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, Radiohead, Tool, ELO, David Bowie, Talking Heads, Queen, electric Miles... etc were among the favorites of your younger self - include them as well as the usual suspects.

Spanning from early childhood to late teens (in chronological order) My list would be something like. Edit: I needed a top sixteen too as Lewian's The Dreaming-pick remided med that Kate Bush was missing from my list:

ELO - Time (found in my parents collection)
Pink Floyd - The Wall (found in my parents collection)
Metallica - Master of Puppets (All my friends were into them really. Love all 83-88)
Death - Leprosy (The most extreme music I had encountered up to that point. A natural part of being a young metalhead:)
Led Zeppelin - I-IV (got them all at once for Christmas)
Jethro Tull - Stand Up (more followed soon)
Genesis - Nursery Cryme (My first actual full blown Prog Rock album. A female friend was a fan after being   
 introduced to them from her big brother. The rest 70-76 followed whenever I could affort it)
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (the rest 69-74 followed whenever I could affort it)
Swans - Children of God (Borrowed from an older friend first. White Light etc... followed)
The Residents - Duck Stab/Buster and Glen (Also borrowed from the same friend along with Meet the Residents - started to obsessively collecting them)
Dead Can Dance - (St) (A girlfriend were into them. Love everything they ever released)
David Bowie - Hunky Dory (The album was played at some party. Got him complete 69-83 + Blackstar by now)
Kate Bush - Hounds of Love (I already knew I liked her through radio and videos. Plus that same girlfriend was 
 a fan. When I went to the counter to pay for it, I got it for free:) Love and own most of her discog)
Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure (Actually bought because of the cover. I only knew More Than This/India
 beforehand, which my parents ownes on #7. Soon bought everything)
The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord. (Randomly borrowed it from the library:)
Kraftwerk - The Man-Machine (I knew a couple of songs from television. Now own everything 1970-1986)

-I think all of these have shaped me in one way or another. I never stopped loving - or listening to any of them. Well, I rarely really listen to The Wall and ISotLC in full anymore, but I know them by heart.

What are yours?


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I'm not quite sure what qualifies as I had no idea what prog is when I started to discover stuff, so obviously there was no way to associate that stuff with prog at the time. 

Some of the very first (I list one per artist, usually the first contact or the first I really got into):
Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Watch
Pink Floyd - "Two Originals" (that was a double album with Piper and Saucerful of Secrets)

From my father's collection:
Jethro Tull - Aqualung
Novalis - s/t 
ELP - Welcome Back My Friends to the Show that Never Ends

But then I figured out pretty soon that there is such a thing as "prog", but did I know that these were included? Honestly I don't know anymore. (I did know that KC, Yes, Genesis, VDGG, Camel and many others were part of it before I had any of their stuff.) Or rather, the connection between these and "prog" wasn't really clear to me.
Can - Soon Over Babaluma
Holger Czukay - Movies
Amon Düül II - Tanz der Lemminge
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon 
Kraftwerk - Mensch-Maschine

Some special cases:
Peter Hammill - Patience (I knew VDGG was prog but the first PH solo things I found out about didn't sound all too prog, and were respected by the music press as opposed to most of prog at the time)
Cardiacs - Live (it was clear to me that this was proggy but somehow they belonged to a different "culture" at the time)

Some discoveries I didn't think were prog at the time, and was later surprised to see in PA:
Kate Bush - Never For Ever
Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring (my first contact was much before that, but the first two albums aren't prog for sure; the third one is probably controversial)
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Japan - Tin Drum
David Sylvian - Brilliant Trees
Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade 
This Heat - s/t
Dead Can Dance - Spleen and Ideal
Radiohead - Kid A
Kante - Zweilicht (in fact I was on PA before them, even though I knew them before I came to PA)

Not sure whether that's really the "first twenty" or so but for the moment I leave it at that (already edited...).

Like Saperlipopette, I still love all of these albums. 


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I'll count Stand Up as my first album, though it was my dad who bought it back then: I just played it transparentLOL


+/- in order of acquisition and they were my first albums - prog or not.


Harmonium - debut + 5th Season
Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
Pink Floyd - DSOTM + WYWH
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick + Aqualung
Traffic - Low Spark of High Heeled Boys
Santana - Abraxas
Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
Caravan - G&P
Genesis - SEbtP &  (later) Trick OTT
K. Crimson - ITCOTCK
Yes - CTTE & TYA


Others
In Rock, Paranoid, Zoso, Who's Next, A Space In Time, Moontan, etc...


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I'm not quite sure what qualifies as I had no idea what prog is when I started to discover stuff, so obviously there was no way to associate them with prog at the time.
That's sort of my point. I wanted you to include albums you didn't associate with anything prog (and maybe still don't) when you first heard them, but are in the PA band/artist-index (like perhaps Kate Bush, Kraftwerk etc...). So that we get a bigger, broader, fuller story. I had heard of Prog when I got into Genesis and King Crimson... and I knew they were considered "classic prog". But everything listed before (and everything after except for The Moody Blues) is just music I found  to be good, different and interesting.  

Anyway, great list/selection.
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From my childhood until a teen...

Alan Parsons Project - I Robot (brother bought it)
Gary Numan - Replicas (brother bought it, and I associate it with Prog)
Camel - The Snow Goose (seemed like everyone's older brother had this album)
David Bowie - Changes One (brother bought this compilation albums)
Pink Floyd - The Wall (brother bought this one release and immediately played for me)
Pink Floyd - Works (compilation album that I bought for my other brother)
Pink Floyd - various Pink FLoyd albums like Wish You Were Here, Atom Heart Mother....
Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps (brother's collection again, and later for me, my English teacher kept it in class)
Focus - Hamburger Concerto (my neighbour's older brother, love at first listen, and, later for me, my English teacher kept it in class)
the Who - Quadrophenia and Tommy (friend's house had it)
Kraftwerk - The Man Machine (while I was in hospital for a burst appendix, someone gave me this on cassette)
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (same person gave me this on cassette to listen to while in hospital, and Echo and the Bunnymen)
Yes - Fragile (A friend played this to me)
Rush - Hemispheres (same friend played this to me)
Kate Bush - The Whole Story (I first got into her due to here music videos, but then later I was exposed to this compilation album)

Oh and I could include most of Led Zeppelin due to a friend as a teenager.
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OK, as a teenager, one fave album per group, all on PA? They are merely going to be in alphabetical order, but I think I can make a reasonable stab at it...

APP: Turn Of A Friendly Card
BJH: Everyone is Everybody Else (Still is)
Black Sabbath: Sabotage
Deep Purple: In Rock
ELO: ELO II
Genesis: Foxtrot
Hawkwind: Hall Mountain Grill
JMJ: Oxygene
Kansas: Leftoverture
Led Zep: Physical Graffiti
Marillion: Script
Rush: Permanent Waves
Sky: Sky 1
Tangerine Dream: Ricochet
Yes: GfTO (it isn't now, of course)

there was other PA stuff knocking around at the time, such as Moodies, Andreas Vollenweider, Pallas & Styx to name a few, but none would have got into the top 15.

I know this will shock and sadden you all, but I really didn't get my teeth into Floyd, Camel, Oldfield, Eloy & Tull until my early 20's (Having no older brothers, uncles or friends who liked Prog)... expel me from PA if you wish  Embarrassed
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Tangerine Dream – Exit (I went through the entire bin and this LP stood out)

Jean-Michel Jarre – Rendez-Vous

Jethro Tull – The Broadsword and the Beast

Goblin – Dawn of the Dead

Simonetti - Pignatelli - Morante – Tenebre

Kraftwerk – The Man-Machine

Yes – 90125

Rush – Grace Under Pressure

Synergy – The Metropolitan Suite

Emerson, Lake & Palmer – Brain Salad Surgery

Vangelis – Direct

King Crimson – Red

Santana – Marathon

Emerson, Lake & Powell – S/T

Genesis – ...And Then There Were Three
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Tangerine Dream – Exit (I went through the entire bin and this LP stood out)

Wasn't that just a great experience as a teen? When money was (always) tight, you scrabbled thru the bargain bin in the corner clutching at straws for inspiration, taking a punt and finding a real gem like that for 3 or 4 £?

Those were the days, my friend... Cool
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I'll count Stand Up as my first album, though it was my dad who bought it back then: I just played it transparentLOL

Doesn't matter who bought it imo. Parents, siblings or a friend records that you got into is fair game. I bought my own copy though. After someone had brought a Living in the Past-cassette along on a school trip (side one and two was played on the bus). I wanted to buy that one really, but the record store didn't have it. I went for Stand Up after about 30 seconds of A New Day Yesterday in the listening booth. It was the perfect introductory album.
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Kraftwerk - The Man Machine (while I was in hospital for a burst appendix, someone gave me this on cassette)
Interesting that Lewian, you and I all have this one.
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

I know this will shock and sadden you all, but I really didn't get my teeth into Floyd, Camel, Oldfield, Eloy & Tull until my early 20's (Having no older brothers, uncles or friends who liked Prog)... expel me from PA if you wish  Embarrassed
That's ok:). What you're exposed to and who you meet will always be a little random. Sometimes pure coincidence, what we find and when we find it, shapes us. It's why I find these listing an interesting read. Sort of "a portrait of the artist as a young man" for music - or for prog lovers.
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A chronological list is impossible for me because during the mid-to-late '70s, I was being exposed to music quite frequently and therefore do not recall which albums I got when or in what order. Also, I won't include Prog Related or Proto-Prog. Anyway, the following list is as close to chronological as I can recall:
 
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon
Supertramp - Crime of the Century
Split Enz - Mental Notes
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time
Emerson Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson Lake & Palmer - Works
Jeff Beck - Blow by Blow
Jeff Beck - Wired
Split Enz - Dizrythmia
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Pink Floyd - A Nice Pair (a double album of "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" and "A Saucerful of Secrets")
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Pink Floyd - Obscured by Clouds
Pink Floyd - More
Pink Floyd - Relics
Pink Floyd - Animals
Yes - Close to the Edge
Yes - Fragile
Faust - Faust IV
Emerson Lake & Palmer - Emerson Lake & Palmer
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Genesis - Nursery Cryme
Genesis - Wind & Wuthering
Rare Bird - As Your Mind Flies By
Van der Graaf Generator - World Record
...
 
 



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Ok, I'll try to play along as best as I can.

The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (I was big into the fab four as a kid)
"       "        - The White Album
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti
Yes - Fragile
"     - Relayer
King Crimson - Larks tongues in Aspic
"       "           - In the Court of the Crimson King
Rush - Signals (the first I bought by them so still kind of a sentimental thing)
"       - Hemispheres
ELP - Same
Gentle Giant - Octopus (probably my favorite GG)
Kansas - Leftoverture (I think this was the first or one of the first Kansas albums I heard)
Camel - The Snow Goose
Marillion - Misplaced Childhood
Marillion - Clutching At Straws 

That's 15 so I'll quit while I'm ahead. ;)


PS I regret leaving out Genesis (definitely a careless omission). Selling England by the Pound should be in there so I'll just say it's number 16 although it should probably be sandwiched in between Yes and King Crimson.


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How bout a list of albums that I always thought were proggy that I'm still surprised were/are not included in PA's database:

Joni Mitchell Don Juan's Reckless Daughter 
XTC
Stereolab (only added this year)
Jane Siberry
Bruce Cockburn
Nina Hagen
King Sunny Adé
Michael Hedges
Strawberry Alarm Clock
Tears For Fears
Depeche Mode
The Cure
West Indian Girl
Knower
Dif Juz
Drew Fisher
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^That's an interesting list as well so why not:). I've never personally thougth of Depeche Mode in the context of Progressive Rock. In regards to the others ones I know of from your list, I guess at some point while listening "hey, this is actually kind of proggy" has at least crossed my mind. Nothing strikes me as equally obvious as Stereolab did. I would surely get behind a Strawberry Alarm Clock though. Dif Juz are probably obscure enough to never have been suggested by anyone.
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

A chronological list is impossible for me because during the mid-to-late '70s, I was being exposed to music quite frequently and therefore do not recall which albums I got when or in what order. Also, I won't include Prog Related or Proto-Prog. Anyway, the following list is as close to chronological as I can recall:
I made up my own rules on the spot. Just to limit my selection and hopefully make it somewhat interesting in a PA-context. It can be read as a suggestion more than a demand. Everyone should do their version in the way that feels right for them, I guess. 

Btw: My own list was relatively accurate, but also just as close to chronological as I can recall.


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PS I regret leaving out Genesis (definitely a careless omission). Selling England by the Pound should be in there so I'll just say it's number 16 although it should probably be sandwiched in between Yes and King Crimson.
That makes three of us. 15, 16... I don't really care:). My original title was: Our first ten (fifteen, twenty...) favorite Prog Archives-albums, but it took up too much space so the last bit was left out.
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I had all these either on cassette or vinyl and to the best of my recollection were my 'primers'.

Wings - Band On The Run
The Who - By Numbers
ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition (quickly followed by ELP, Tarkus, Trilogy, Brain Salad Surgery)
Yes - Tormato
Keith Emerson - Inferno
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
Rush - Exit Stage Left
Yes - Going For The One
ELP - Welcome Back My Friends
The Nice - Five Bridges Suite
Aphrodite's Child - 666
Vangelis - Beauborg
Tangerine Dream - Dream Sequence (compilation of the Virgin Years)
Genesis - Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
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^Seems to me you knew what you were looking for (unlike me:).
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^ Yep, I didn't really bother with hard rock, metal or general pop music at all. ELP, Yes and Genesis were the beacons of light that shone bright although Pink Floyd - The Wall was massively important to me when it came out (not such a big fan now)
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Vangelis - Beauborg

You mean you learnt to appreciate the musical architecture of this album whilst still a teen?

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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

I know this will shock and sadden you all, but I really didn't get my teeth into Floyd, Camel, Oldfield, Eloy & Tull until my early 20's (Having no older brothers, uncles or friends who liked Prog)... expel me from PA if you wish  Embarrassed



I didn't have an older brother/cousin to guide me either, but there was the perfect record shop next to my school with the most excellent owner, always listening to my returns on what I bought before and guided me to other albums and always hit the spot (very few misses). The dude looked a lot like Roger Earle of Savoy Brown (later Foghat) and owned the Records On Wheels in Mississauga. 

Impossible to miss Harmonium's debut in the spring of 74 while still in Montreal, but by the fall I was in the greater Toronto area, and when I saw Crime of the Century in the ROW shop window, I knew I had to listen to that, so next day, I had enough money to take it home. 

When I came back astounded by what I'd heard, I asked him for more of the same, and out I came with DSOTM and the next time was ITCKOFCK. Of course TAAB and Aqualung were right up there, as well.
I did have an early near-miss with SEBTP at first, because I thought it was too weird-sounding (production-wise) but it clicked later, once I got ATOTT. 


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