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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Frank Zappa

I was going to say the same. Zappa live is awesome. Every concert was so different, particularly from line-up to line-up. I love hearing different interpretations of his music with each new group of players, new technology, and newer genres for them to parody. Plus, the improvised bits, both musical and comedic, keep each concert fresh. Especially any audience participation.
You said it better than I could, and there is an abundance of live material to choose from.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


King Crimson
Grobschnitt
Magma
Can
Tangerine Dream 
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Hi,

Without a doubt these were/are the best live. 

KC is probably the most rehearsed and prepared of them all in concert. You don't do 3 drummers unless you know how and what you are doing! The film makes this clear.

Grobschnitt is one of those bands that is always fun and ready to play ... and they do show their abilities in a few live albums, specially the different versions of Solar Music live in the remastered album. 

Magma, would not be as good if they were not "clean" in concert, which is by very far a far out experience. 

Tangerine Dream, has the number of Live albums down the most, and the better ones, were actually in the early days ... when the bootlegs were what showed that TD could not quite replicate things as well as they were able to record them, but their adjustments and ability made them great anyway ... it probably wasn't until the late 70's that they started being able to control their music and then do it live. But you never saw them do the recorded material to a T ... it was always different and many times better live.

Can has excellent stuff in the days that Damo gave us ... and later, it did not show as many recordings without Damo, probably because there was no need for it. The albums were as live as they could be.

A few others ... 

The kings of the live show and album!!!! Grateful Dead, which has shared the largest amount of shows with their fans from the start ... although the big thing here was how different so much stuff was, but the musical talent and ability was way up there, sadly thought of by prog's and progressive folks as stony music and nothing else. They also, unlike a lot of bands, had the best sound system of any band ... even PF didn't come close in DSOTM.

The most talented ... Frank Zappa. And his bands were usually tight and well rehearsed, and in the days of George Duke, even more so, as he helped make it all special ... one look at the Roxy DVD ... and you always wish you were there ... a show that good? Goodness. Also try to see that bit by Steve Vai about Frank's ability to flow all over the place, with a massive solo that never played anywhere else. Steve still says that is the best guitar playing he has ever heard or seen.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


King Crimson
Grobschnitt

Soft Machine 


Magma
Can
Tangerine Dream 
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Hi,

Without a doubt these were/are the best live. 

But you erased Soft Machine. 

ConfusedLOL


Edited by Sean Trane - August 08 2024 at 09:21
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

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But you erased Soft Machine. 

ConfusedLOL

Hi,

My bad, and it is because I have not heard SM Live forever ... I have not listened to SM since RW had to leave.

I promise to catch up ... but even in RW days they were already a heck of a trip.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


King Crimson
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Hi,

Without a doubt these were/are the best live. 


But you erased Soft Machine. 

ConfusedLOL




I'm in your corner Hugues, Soft Machine is the first band I thought of when I saw the topic. There always seems to be a good reason to buy every archival live album that they release. Although I've abstained from the latest
"Hovikodden".
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:


I'm in your corner Hugues, Soft Machine is the first band I thought of when I saw the topic. There always seems to be a good reason to buy every archival live album that they release. Although I've abstained from the latest
"Hovikodden".

I think Steve has made a fortune from all the SM posthumous live releases I (we) bought from him (I'll include the few Nucleus live releases in there as well for me). Surely Steve will object to "making a fortune" out of those Soft releases, though.

TBH, I might actually pass as well on the latest Norwegian double header, as it might be a little of an overkill. 
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Great choices. Some bands are better live than in the studio. For me, Renaissance and Deep Purple are two of them.
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Many German bands are better live than studio, and have good live albums that show it. Grobschnitt have already been named, Kraan is another major example (probably number one "live over studio" band for me); all their live albums top all their studio albums. Hoelderlin Live Traumstadt is head and shoulders above their studio work, Anyone's Daughter's Requested Documents live albums have better versions than studio of most of the tracks, Guru Guru Live is my favourite of them. Eloy would also improve on most of their studio versions live. Embryo probably as well (although I'd need to know more of them to be sure). Tangerine Dream is of course a special case with all that material that is on live albums only. 
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Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
There is a lot and I listen to their live material a lot more nowadays especially:
Mar Y Sol (Puerto Rico 1972). Great Hammond sound!
Live in Italy (Milan 1973). Has Karn Evil 9 1st Impression the same as the album (ie without the extended drum solo that almost ruins the triple album version) Carl Palmer's bass drum is very heavy indeed.
Welcome Back My Friends.. (Anahiem 1974). For the extended Tarkus but it's a muddy sounding album sadly.
King Biscuit Presents (has the same performances of Hoedown and Karn Evil 9 that were in the live triple above but with better sounding ''Straight from boards'' recordings)
Live Bootleg Series Volume 2 (this includes ELP's greatest live performance in the opinion of many fans at Rich Coloseum, Buffalo, NY in 1974. Sound quality is not great but you can still actually hear the quad system in action and it's insane!)
Nassau Coloseum and the even better Wheeling, West Virginia 2 CD set both of which I play the death out of. The latter is superbly recorded and the band were on fire by this time on the Works Tour (just as a 3 piece with orchestra long ditched)
If I listen to any ELP after their classic era then occasionally Live At The Royal Albert Hall from 1992 is decent. 
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Many German bands are better live than studio, and have good live albums that show it. Grobschnitt have already been named, Kraan is another major example (probably number one "live over studio" band for me); all their live albums top all their studio albums. Hoelderlin Live Traumstadt is head and shoulders above their studio work, Anyone's Daughter's Requested Documents live albums have better versions than studio of most of the tracks, Guru Guru Live is my favourite of them. Eloy would also improve on most of their studio versions live. Embryo probably as well (although I'd need to know more of them to be sure). Tangerine Dream is of course a special case with all that material that is on live albums only. 

Eloy Live is one of the greatest live prog albums. Jurgen Rosenthal is in fire. BTW Jurgen wrote all of the Ocean album, a fact that not many are aware of. Neil Peart eat your hat!
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