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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Originally posted by Orchidphile Orchidphile wrote:

Look, I appreciate your intention to help, but if you're out of your depth you shouldn't feel forced to come up with something.

What is it with new users asking questions where they'll never be satisfied, and then being completely condescending about it? I swear, this happens every few months or so LOL
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Originally posted by Waltz Woods Wanderer Waltz Woods Wanderer wrote:

Originally posted by SpaceRockTraveller SpaceRockTraveller wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Originally posted by Orchidphile Orchidphile wrote:

Look, I appreciate your intention to help, but if you're out of your depth you shouldn't feel forced to come up with something.

What is it with new users asking questions where they'll never be satisfied, and then being completely condescending about it? I swear, this happens every few months or so LOL
It's true what @Waltz Wood Wanderer said that some people on music forums these days purposefully ask for things that contradict each other just for kicks Disapprove
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I don't think I'm getting my message across. Did you listen to any of the examples I mentioned in my original post? Or the Thin Lizzy riff I posted later as an example of what I'm looking for? Because if you can't hear the same arrangements in both, then I don't know what to tell you. For the record, Thin Lizzy here is the least important part of the argument. They're just a vessel to represent a ver specific type of riff, because they're well known so I expected people to go "oh yeah, Thin Lizzy's harmonies, I know those", yet everyone here seems to act like I'm asking for something like Whisky in the Jar with growls, which is not the case.

Here is the Thin Lizzy harmony in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0NpmOhLYm0

Listen to that then listen to the first 1:30 mins of In Mist She was Standing by Opeth. If what I'm asking for isn't clear after that, well, good day sir.
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You mention both Opeth and early In Flames, but itīs not like any of those two artists donīt use heavy chugging riffs...but somehow they are not disqualified while other melodeath and melodic doom metal artists are?

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I'm just referencing those 2 albums in particular, Orchid and Lunar Strain. Nothing else is those bands' discographies are anything like them, or what I'm asking for. Please, let's stick to the specific examples.
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But the person admitted not liking the genre, how is it wrong to tell someone that they aren't familiar with the topic when they already admitted as such?

And it's important to be so oddly specific because this is an extremely niche request so of course I also need to do the legwork to show them the right direction of my request. How am I arrogant when I'm just trying to help them too? The person who said death metal was "kitsch" sounded far more arrogant and yet I decided to ignore it.
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Suggesting good bands does not equal fantastic suggestions for my request. You might as well recommend The Beatles then. 

And yes, you need to be deep into a style to give an accurate recommendation. People keep bringing up Arch Enemy as if they aren't literally the biggest melodeath band in the world right now. I know them, I think they're alright, but just because they belong to the same genre as some bands I mentioned doesn't mean they're "the same". Hell, not even the bands I mentioned are, just those specific releases.

Please, whatever you assume about the sound of Opeth or In Flames or whatever, forget about it. I'm not talking Blackwater Park or Jester Race here, I'm talking other albums.

As for the songs you recommended, well, I'd say you should check these to get an accurate view of the type of riff I'm looking for:

In Flames - In Flames

Dark Tranquility - Crimson Winds

One last thing: this isn't about Thin Lizzy, or hard rock, or melodeath, it's about the example albums I've been mentioning, which I hope someone has been checking.
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An utterly pointless thread. Now it seems even music related threads disintegrate into animosity here. 

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Check out Chapel of Disease

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Originally posted by Zardli Zardli wrote:

Paradise Lost As I Die EP 1992

Good song, no doubt, but if there was an influence on Shades of God, it was Black Sabbath and not Thin Lizzy. Smile
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Originally posted by Zardli Zardli wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Zardli Zardli wrote:

Paradise Lost As I Die EP 1992

Good song, no doubt, but if there was an influence on Shades of God, it was Black Sabbath and not Thin Lizzy. Smile
Oh, really? Maybe you should hear that 1992 EP in its entirety.

I did. I just don't hear the Thin Lizzy influence. 
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Originally posted by Zardli Zardli wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Zardli Zardli wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Zardli Zardli wrote:

Paradise Lost As I Die EP 1992
Good song, no doubt, but if there was an influence on Shades of God, it was Black Sabbath and not Thin Lizzy. Smile
Oh, really? Maybe you should hear that 1992 EP in its entirety.

I did. I just don't hear the Thin Lizzy influence. 

Ah, well, it seems I'm utterly at a loss as to how I might assist you…

No need for assistance LOL, it's just a simple disagreement. No harm done. Smile
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Lizzy Borden - A Hair Metal band who sound a bit like Thin Lizzy. Wink

Any you thought Kiss were over-the-top. Tongue



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For a second I thought the OP was looking for albums by the band Extreme that sound like Thin Lizzy. LOL I would be no help either way. Tongue
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Originally posted by Orchidphile Orchidphile wrote:

Listen to that then listen to the first 1:30 mins of In Mist She was Standing by Opeth. If what I'm asking for isn't clear after that, well, good day sir.


The attitude's unnecessary, Fez.

I'm not a fan of Opeth and I listened to the clip. It's listenable until the vocals come in. That's a very consistent guitar harmony. The only way you'll find more songs like that is (drum roll) to keep listening till you find more songs like that.

You're better off posting this question to the Ultimate Metal forum.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Orchidphile Orchidphile wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0NpmOhLYm0

I want an extreme metal band that plays riffs like this: harmonized melodies, no rhythm guitar chugging along in the background or anything, just bass and drums as backing. No Tremolo, no blast beats.

I don't know that this music exists.  Buy a guitar, find some bandmates and do it yourself. 

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^cstack3's two comments perfectly sums up my own thoughts
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

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