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BaldFriede
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Topic: Band Salad Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:44 |
I'll explain what I mean by this by giving 2 examples for "Band Salad".
Example 1:
Gong. There are several related bands with "Gong" in their name: Mother Gong, New York Gong, Gongzilla, Planet Gong, and of course the original "Gong". (Some might name "Pierre Moerlen's Gong", but that's not the original name of the band; they just named themselves "Gong" under his direction).
Example 2:
Amon Düül. This is even more complicated. There is Amon Düül, who split up, and one half of them named themselves "Amon Düül 2". The band who stuck with the original name released only one recording, "Psychedelic Underground". All other records of this band, like "Collapsing" or "Singvögel Rückwärts", are "posthumous" and stem from a 1968 session of them. Amon Düül 2 lived much longer and recorded a lot of albums. And now it gets really complicated. Ex bass-player Dave Anderson (who had left Amon Düül 2 after "Yeti" and went to Hawkwind) and guitar player John Weinzierl formed a British branch of Amon Düül, who published the albums "Hawk Meets Penguin", "Meetings With Men-Machines (Unremarkable Heroes of the Past)", "Die Lösung", "Fool Moon" and the sampler "Airs on a Shoestring". So there are Amon Düül, Amon Düül 2 and the Britsh Amon Düül (in which, interestingly enough, Robert Calvert of Hawkwind, Guy Evans of Van der Graaf Generator and members of the Ozric Tentacles played). Somebody please sort this family maze out. There also was a short-lived band named "Amon Din", in which some Amon Düül members played.
Oh, and just to add to the confusion about Amon Düül: Around the time Amon Düül 2 recorded "Wolf City" there was a quarrel in the band, and some split and created a band named Utopia. But while Utopia recorded their first and only self-titled album, the quarreling members of Amon Düül 2 made peace again, which resulted in all of them playing on that Utopia project too. The only album of Utopia was later re-issued under the name Amon Düül 2. And one title of Utopia, "Deutsch Nepal", also appeared on "Wolf City", but in a slightly different version (most notably other vocals, though with the same lyrics). Man, am I confused now!
Any other examples for "Band Salad"?
Edited by BaldFriede
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:55 |
Hmmmmm...I misread the post.......thought it said Brain Salad.......so not ELP then........
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:57 |
Samla Mammas Manna (my newest favourite band, as has been noted
elsewhere) also split off into Zamla Mammaz Manna and Von Zamla at
various times before reforming as Samla Mammas Manna. I don't know the
ins and outs though.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 19:33 |
For anyone who wants to know more about the strange history of Amon Düül I recommend the book "Tanz der Lemminge" by Ingeborg Schober. This book was published in 1979 though and so does not include the latter band history, especially the part about the British Amon Düül. But it is a fascinating insight into the history of one of the weirdest and wildest bands ever. Who would have thought the members of Amon Düül threatened each other with knives and guns, so their compositions would be on the next album?
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Wizard/TRueStar
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 19:48 |
I think the whole canturbury scene works like this
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 22:17 |
Wizard/TRueStar wrote:
I think the whole canturbury scene works like this |
good point - what an interesting scene. the constant grouping and regrouping.
I really think this site should undertake a master 'prog rock family tree' to end all family trees
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Arsillus
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 22:35 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Wizard/TRueStar wrote:
I think the whole canturbury scene works like this |
good point - what an interesting scene. the constant grouping and regrouping.
I really think this site should undertake a master 'prog rock family tree' to end all family trees
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That's an awesome idea.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 05:34 |
Why was this post moved?
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threefates
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 09:57 |
I saw Amon Düül in concert last year at Progeny in London. Sorry to say, but I thought they were about the worst band I've seen. I guess that 20 year gap since their last performance was for a reason..... Geez!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 10:09 |
Interesting. Since, as I pointed out in my post, there are 3 different Amon Düüls, which ones did you actually see?
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Tony R
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 10:28 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Why was this post moved? |
Because Salad has nothing to do with Progressive Eating Disorder?
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threefates
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 00:59 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Interesting. Since, as I pointed out in my post, there are 3 different Amon Düüls, which ones did you actually see? |
Amon Düül II - was advertized that it was the entire original band who hadn't all played together in 25 years or so...
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