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Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

I've listened to "eski bir" and saw that...

Lol, it is actually "Eksi Bir", not "eski bir". It basically means -1 / minus one.

It can be used for the temparature like -1 degree Celsius = eksi bir santigrat derece. Or, mostly in online social media environments, it can be said to mean that you disagree with one's point. Artı bir means, I agree; eksi bir means, I disagree.

Yet, here the lyrics tell the realisation, acknowledgement, and the eventual frustration of how the "periods of time" (specifically days) fall away one by one, and that it only adds more and more despair onto our lives. 

What did you think of this bands music?  I guess it was done in 2015. I was pretty impressed.


Agreed. I liked it too. Pretty classy prog rock stuff. First time hearing of them. So, thank you for that. Wink

Edited by Archisorcerus - June 16 2024 at 08:02
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@Valdez

I thought you might be interested in this. All the best! Beer

https://voca.ro/14MfrNadqBOn


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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

@Valdez

I thought you might be interested in this. All the best! Beer

https://voca.ro/14MfrNadqBOn

Thank You Archisorcerus... That was very thoughtful of you!  Much appreciated.
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It is the language of Mordor.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

It is the language of Mordor.

As Gandalf the 'Haji' utters it: "Very few can... (read it)" 

And I'm among the very few, at least here. Or, am I the only one?.. LOL
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Hi all, 

This is Cem, drummer and song writer for Cogunlukla Zararsiz. Thank you for your interest in our music and your kind words.

Cogunlukla Zararsiz is (was) a Turkish band we founded almost 10 years ago as a side-project. We are no longer active :( 

Eksi bir is kind of a reference to the count down (it means "minus one").

I'm currently trying to publish music under another "project" Uzak (which means "far" or "distant"). This is a project that aims to publish collaborative work by like-minded artists.
https://uzak.bandcamp.com/track/kuzey-i-klar

thanks again for your appreciation of our music. 

Take care

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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

It is the language of Mordor.

As Gandalf the 'Haji' utters it: "Very few can... (read it)" 

And I'm among the very few, at least here. Or, am I the only one?.. LOL

Actually, I was partially kidding. If you look at the word form in the Orkish language, to a non-Turk they do seem related. Words like:

Uruk
pushdug 
Uglúk
burzum
durbatulûk
thrakatulûk
gimbatul

Again, to a non-Turk, Black Speech is very glottal; in fact linguists posit that the language of Mordor was based on ancient Hurritic -- the Hurrians once occupying a large part of Turkey.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

It is the language of Mordor.

As Gandalf the 'Haji' utters it: "Very few can... (read it)" 

And I'm among the very few, at least here. Or, am I the only one?.. LOL

Actually, I was partially kidding. If you look at the word form in the Orkish language, to a non-Turk they do seem related. Words like:

Uruk
pushdug 
Uglúk
burzum
durbatulûk
thrakatulûk
gimbatul

Again, to a non-Turk, Black Speech is very glottal; in fact linguists posit that the language of Mordor was based on ancient Hurritic -- the Hurrians once occupying a large part of Turkey.

Yeah, I already got the "semi-joke".

I guess English fantasy authors love them some Turkish in their work. Tolkien's "friend of fantasy" C.S. Lewis' Narnia also has the Turkish word Aslan which means lion in English (and in modern Turkish also). There's some dispute about the origin of the name Jadis too; some say it could be related to the Turkish word for witch, which is cadı ("c" is pronounced as in djinn here).

BTW, I'm not a Tolkien fan. Never have been. Though, I read LOTR novels in my adolescence and only partially impressed.
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

It is the language of Mordor.

As Gandalf the 'Haji' utters it: "Very few can... (read it)" 

And I'm among the very few, at least here. Or, am I the only one?.. LOL

Actually, I was partially kidding. If you look at the word form in the Orkish language, to a non-Turk they do seem related. Words like:

Uruk
pushdug 
Uglúk
burzum
durbatulûk
thrakatulûk
gimbatul

Again, to a non-Turk, Black Speech is very glottal; in fact linguists posit that the language of Mordor was based on ancient Hurritic -- the Hurrians once occupying a large part of Turkey.

Yeah, I already got the "semi-joke".

I guess English fantasy authors love them some Turkish in their work. Tolkien's "friend of fantasy" C.S. Lewis' Narnia also has the Turkish word Aslan which means lion in English (and in modern Turkish also). There's some dispute about the origin of the name Jadis too; some say it could be related to the Turkish word for witch, which is cadı ("c" is pronounced as in djinn here).

BTW, I'm not a Tolkien fan. Never have been. Though, I read LOTR novels in my adolescence and only partially impressed.

The Movies are much better than the book.  I remember reading the trilogy when I was young... uuuurggh.
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^ Yep. I liked the movies better, as well. Whilst, I'm pretty certain that most will disagree with your notion here. Smile
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ Yep. I liked the movies better, as well. Whilst, I'm pretty certain that most will disagree with your notion here. Smile
I would actually wager that more people have seen the movies than have even attempted to read the books. Which is usually the case with books that have been adapted into popular movies/franchises.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ Yep. I liked the movies better, as well. Whilst, I'm pretty certain that most will disagree with your notion here. Smile
I would actually wager that more people have seen the movies than have even attempted to read the books. Which is usually the case with books that have been adapted into popular movies/franchises.

I said "here", which comes to mean on this forum. I vividly recall that The Dark Elf had panned the "adaptation" of the  Eye of Sauron in the movie, for instance.

Plus, in order to claim that one of them is is better than the other; it is mandatory that one has to both read the books and watch the movies.
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Hey CEM, great to actually hear from a band member. Yes this is a fine album. I purchased at band camp.. I will watch for your new projects .Are the translated lyrics posted anywhere? I found this on YouTube with few plays but maybe it’s a newer vid distributed by distrokid. Good luck with future projects !!!

Edited by Valdez - June 17 2024 at 08:26
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Thanks Valdez. I'll provide some google-translate supported translations for the lyrics here. 
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

It is the language of Mordor.
Uruk
pushdug
Uglúk
burzum
durbatulûk
thrakatulûk
gimbatul
Yeah. For example: Nazgül.

EDIT:
TIL that Nazgül is a real Turkic feminine name!

Edited by Hrychu - June 19 2024 at 07:55
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

It is the language of Mordor.
Uruk
pushdug
Uglúk
burzum
durbatulûk
thrakatulûk
gimbatul
Yeah. For example: Nazgül.

EDIT:
TIL that Nazgül is a real Turkic feminine name!

I've never seen a girl/woman with the name Nazgül and I guess that is a very rare Turkish name, however it could even be a very popular one as it really sounds like some common Turkish girl names like "Aygül, Birgül, Songül..." etc. Nazgül; phonetically and meaningwise is (or can be) quite a proper Turkish name.

Some Turks make jokes about this, like: "If I had a daughter, I would give her the name Nazgül as a Tolkien/LotR fanboy." LOL
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