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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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    Posted: June 17 2024 at 11:14
Another day, another poll... A revamp of the previous "Jazz Fusion" poll with a profusion of even more jazz with all of the great suggestions added, including Art Blakey, Bill Evans, Gil Evans, Abbey Lincoln & Jimmy Smith and many more, filling all 25 available slots - and I even remembered to post the poll in the correct forum this time too. Tongue   🗣️ 🎉 🎵 🎶 💃 🎤 🎸 🎊 🕺 🥁

3 stars 1959: Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - Moanin' - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB52202568D57088E
2 stars 1959: Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpf99MZQhIM
2 stars 1959: Ornette Coleman - Tomorrow is the Question - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mQTBzKOZ3Mlnw_EyCHuCYutCNtohUr4Nw
3 stars 1959: Gil Evans Orchestra - Great Jazz Standards - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kwtyoHU3ZhMiFdBrqJH-IAa_CKNHUwYts
3 stars 1959: Chico Hamilton Quintet - Gongs East! - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzRFMVY_paplQ3cWbZZpTP423dz62Sb8a
3 stars 1959: Quincy Jones - The Great Wide World of Quincy Jones - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHn3f7-9IUKjZe_hXSSUPaGc5YDBBEQI
3 stars 1959: Wayne Shorter - Introducing Wayne Shorter - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSJTyUsv_bQ
2 stars 1959: Cecil Taylor Quartet - Looking Ahead! - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAzHladAmkCTHhXqJWbD9bBL9Fe3jy2Gb


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - June 18 2024 at 00:52
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Many will pick KoB, which is a masterful album for sure.....but for me Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers is the epitome of hard bop during this period late 50s to mid 60s.
Moanin' is a brilliant record.


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It's still Coleman for me. Honourable mentions go out to Mingus, Davis, Taylor, Brubeck and Sun Ra.
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I'd be Kind of Blue if Miles Davis doesn't win this again, but it'd be nice to see some votes for the sixteen (mostly) requested new entries in the poll. Smile
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When there so many albums I love dearly, I can never select one over the others (but it would be one of the three frist I've listed).

Btw: I think two stars will be the highest rating you'll ever rate a Cecil Taylor album. Looking Ahead! is his "Easy Listening" album:). I struggle with most of his later releases myself, and find his solo piano albums largely unlistenable. But I love this kind of abstacted jazz with plenty of breathing space - that still sort of swings. But I think you don't enjoy any music that doesn't doesn't feature distinct melodic lines?

Here's my ten favorites from the other poll with five additional, great albums (and the correct Ahmed Abdul-Malik-title):

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

The Cecil Taylor Quartet - Looking Ahead!
The Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out
Ahmed Abdul-Malik - East Meets West
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
The Chico Hamilton Quintet - Gongs East!
Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
Abbey Lincoln - Abbey Is Blue
Bill Evans Trio - Everybody Digs Bill Evans (Portrait in Jazz was released in 1960*)
Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come
Jimmy Giuffre - The Four Brothers Sound
Yusef Lateef - The Dreamer
The Horace Silver Quintet - Finger Poppin' With the Horace Silver Quintet
Coleman Hawkins & Ben Webster - Coleman Hawkins Encounters Ben Webster
Yusef Lateef - Other Sounds
Ahmad Jamal - Jamal at the Penthouse

I haven't heard the Donald Byrd, Chet Baker or Jimmy Smith albums. I suppose I should at some point.

*and so is The Wes Montgomery Trio
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When there so many albums I love dearly, I can never select one over the others (but it would be one of the three first I've listed).

Btw: I think two stars will be the highest rating you'll ever rate a Cecil Taylor album. Looking Ahead! is his "Easy Listening" album:). I struggle with most of his later releases myself, and find his solo piano albums largely unlistenable. But I love this kind of abstracted jazz with plenty of breathing space - that still sort of swings. But I think you don't enjoy any music that doesn't doesn't feature distinct melodic lines?

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You're absolutely right! I like to hear melody and harmony in my music. After all, the dictionary definition of music is "sound that's melodic and harmonious" and I struggle to listen to anything distinctly edgy that's labelled as Avant Prog - with the rare exception of Samla Mammas Manna. Smile
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


Bill Evans Trio - Everybody Digs Bill Evans (Portrait in Jazz was released in 1960*)

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Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue
Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
Sun Ra - Jazz In Silhouette
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

You're absolutely right! I like to hear melody and harmony in my music. After all, the dictionary definition of music is "sound that's melodic and harmonious" and I struggle to listen to anything distinctly edgy that's labelled as Avant Prog - with the rare exception of Samla Mammas Manna. Smile

Yeah well that's absolutely fine of course. But I don't think it's a very good definition. What's considered melodic and harmonious is in many ways a cultural thing. It doesn't mean the exact same in different parts of the world. We "all" simply hear things differently. Same goes for a child and an experienced adult. I much prefer the more inclusive introduction in Wikipedia's article:

...Music is the arrangement of sound to create some combination of form, harmony, melody, rhythm, or otherwise expressive content...

I still enjoy listening to artists that are blessed with the gift of creating strong, memorable melodies. I much prefer good songcraftmanship to "weak" (but who wouldn't). Banal singalong melodies tend to rub me the wrong way though. I also love music that uses atmosphere/space - and perhaps in jazz I'm more interested in "themes" over "melodies" (but I don't have to choose one over the other). Besides I just like to experience gifted musicians improvising (moreso in jazz than in rock) freely.


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Certainly the best year for "classic" forms of jazz and the year where future forms of jazz will happen (Free, Modal/New Thing, JR/F, spiritual, etc...)

Still missing: John Coltrane's Giant Steps and Max Roach's Quiet As It's Kept

I would also have included a Duke Ellington and Satchmo & Ella, though I don't know if what they released in 59 is iconic or not.


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Still missing: John Coltrane's Giant Steps
It was recorded in 1959, but wasn't actually released until February 1960 (and therefore never part of the "legendary" 1959-classics).
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Certainly the best year for "classic" forms of jazz and the year where future forms of jazz will happen (Free, Modal/New Thing, JR/F, spiritual, etc...)

Still missing: John Coltrane's Giant Steps and Max Roach's Quiet As It's Kept

I would also have included a Duke Ellington and Satchmo & Ella, though I don't know if what they released in 59 is iconic or not.
John Coltrane's Giant Steps will be the first album I add in the upcoming 1960 poll, and having used all 25 available slots this time around, I simply didn't have room to include Duke Ellington, Satchmo or Ella.
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It's still Coleman for me. Honourable mentions go out to Mingus, Davis, Taylor, Brubeck and Sun Ra.
Mingus did surprisingly well in the previous 1959 poll (picking up six votes), bearing in mind I only included his Ah Um album as an afterthought, after a lot of Um-ming and Ah-ing. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

.... and I even remembered to post the poll in the correct forum this time too. Tongue
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and my vote goes still to Mingus Ah Um.
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So you've planned to listen to tons of serious Jazz, Paul, even I don't know when you reckon to reach the year 2000.

Something else, I reckon you've been joking about Mingus Ah Um but to be sure, it is one of the very much appreciated classic Jazz albums.
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Same choice as in Jazz 59 (1°
Dave Brubeck Time out
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


So you've planned to listen to tons of serious Jazz, Paul, even I don't know when you reckon to reach the year 2000.

Something else, I reckon you've been joking about Mingus Ah Um but to be sure, it is one of the very much appreciated classic Jazz albums.
Yes, I've already catalogued all of the Jazz Fusion albums from 1967 through to the year 2000 on ProgArchives and I have hundreds of serious jazz albums in my CD collection too, including some not-so-serious jazz, such as Kenny G for instance. Smile
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So you don't think of this serie of polls as a widening of your Jazz horizon, which I reconed?
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Still no Eric Dolphy... Wow.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


So you don't think of this series of polls as a widening of your Jazz horizon, which I reckoned?
Yes, definitely! Welcome back, by the way. The only album I'd listened to previously in this poll was Miles Davis' Kind of Blue, so I've just widened my jazz horizons by another 24 albums, not to mention the 41 years of classic jazz albums still to come in future polls from 1960 through to the year 2000. Smile
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