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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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Hell, basically all of music died when the 70's did....... no nostalgia clouding my memory here either, under 30 years old and can still recognize that music stopped being about music when the 80's began
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 954 |
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I agree that King Crimsons pre Belew era are Prog landmark albums. Yes and Genesis, ELP, gentle giant, moody blues, Hawkwind.
There is just too much good Prog out there to choose from nowadays. 25-30 years ago everyone jumped on PTREE and TOOL styled metal mix and have been imitating ever since. it’s hard to pick out the real NEW styles but they are out there. Some of the most interesting new stuff is hot for a minute only to be replaced by the next in line. Like Real Estate, I think the market is saturated with product … not enough buyers. Our generation saw the best of it in huge arenas, with big record deals and larger than life bands. We had FM radio to drag us in. Cool bigass stereo systems to play it on. It was really something. You could see BOC and ELP for 8.50 and a screaming light show. It was the best of times. I like porcupine tree, the music is good. The subject matter is sufferingly psychologically pathetic ,and that was interesting too… for a minute. It was imitated to death. Still is after 25 years. Kind of a downer. What I hear mostly today (in Prog) is based on 6 past styles… Porcupine tree King crimson Tool Radiohead Yes Tangerine dream Ask any Gynecologist… even the best things become mundane after overexposure. But somehow King Crimson and Yes have managed to enjoy repeated plays for a long long time. My opinion today… could change after another beer. Edited by Valdez - June 09 2024 at 23:05 |
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https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29577 |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45756 |
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So what are the correct ingredients?!
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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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That's Svetonio for you! Edited by Gordy - June 10 2024 at 03:32 |
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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ufff alot answer!!!!! thanks!!!!!
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18987 |
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I don't think that's who it is. He might be on here somewhere but not here (imo).
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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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Camel!! Yes!! I believe their debut album is one of the best amongst their prog peers of the late 60's and early to mid 70's. Unfortunately not on any streaming services so I'm not sure what their opinion of the record is..... but nevertheless it is in constant rotation on my record player.
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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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The most badass video I've ever seen of ELP, thank you!
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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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I hear you for sure, but.... the rawness that is so strongly felt in early prog and psychedelic rock does not exist after the 70's, sadly. It's hard (if not impossible) to fake that authenticity and the overproduction of modern music is not only an insult to what music is supposed to be but also to my sensibilities and every other music lovers sensibilities. It's almost like the greed of the 80's seeped into our collective soul or psyche or whatever and destroyed us from the inside out... making 99% of us incapable of creating or appreciating art
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29577 |
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I still need new music. You can't invalidate anything just because it suits you. The progressive rock movement never ended and there is no supposed 'cut off' when it ground to a halt. I remember listening to IQ in the early 80's and realising it was more important to me that the flowery literary references of Genesis that never hit home. I needed something raw and visceral and relevant to my state of mind at the time. I also still listen to Marillion and tracks like Forgotten Songs and Fugazi are totally timeless. Sure the 80's mainstream scene was very plastic but the likes of Kate Bush and a few others were still making interesting music. Nowadays there is a helluva lot of great prog some coming from other countries adding their own distinct flavour and ideas. I will keep on listening and not even close to getting bored with music. If I'm some kind of a heathen incapable of appreciating art then so be it. I don't care!
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Edited by Hrychu - June 10 2024 at 23:10 |
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So everyone who likes music you don't is not a music lover, or else their sensibilities would be just as upset as yours? Any arbitrary cut off and claim of 'purity' / 'authenticity' will be flawed, it's not like Jan 1, 1980 rolled around (or any date for that matter) and a global switch was flipped that changed how everyone produced music. Trends come and go, some we like, some we don't, but music lovers the world over enjoy things that you don't and don't enjoy things that you do. Learning to appreciate different things in music makes you more of a music lover, imo, not less of one.
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 954 |
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PROGSYNONYM SAID :
"The rawness that is so strongly felt in early prog and psychedelic rock does not exist after the 70's, sadly. It's hard (if not impossible) to fake that authenticity and the overproduction of modern music is not only an insult to what music is supposed to be but also to my sensibilities and every other music lovers sensibilities. It's almost like the greed of the 80's seeped into our collective soul or psyche or whatever and destroyed us from the inside out." This is a brilliant statement. I agree 80%. There are some RAW straight-out bands scattered about though.
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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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You make very good points and I know that my opinion on music is a very biased and unpopular. To be fair, I don't think it was a "flip of a switch" per se, but more of a slow gradual loss of true artistry in music leading up to the 80's. I have some wacky theories....... Some involving David Riesman, some quite a bit more whimsical but I think to deny that there is less of an interest in true musicianship or music in general today is a bit out of touch though. Which is precisely where I find the lack of authenticity and purity. Of course you and I will never hear the same album exactly alike, I may be hearing things you are not!
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Porcupine Tree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke0jXlgIpxk
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Cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary.....
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Frutería Toñi... |
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