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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2024 at 02:23
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

What is this? 🤣

Probably the longest spam thread of all time?
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Originally posted by Watanabe Watanabe wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Watanabe Watanabe wrote:

Svengali is a band based in Dubai, UAE, that has gained recognition in the local and international music scene. The band consists of members from various countries, such as Lebanon, Iraq, the UAE, and India. They released their sophomore album Sayonara in 2020, following the success of their first full-length album Theory of Mind, which reached No. 2 on Virgin Megastore's UAE album charts in 2015. 
Svengali plays metal, featuring progressive elements, doomsday drumming, tectonic guitars, and growled vocals. Their music focuses on positive themes and energy, aiming to convey messages of perseverance through difficult times.


What is "doomsday drumming"?
What's a "tectonic guitar"? 
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“Doomsday drumming” in heavy-metal music refers to a style of drumming characterised by very intense, emphatic, vigorous, aggressive, and fast-paced rhythms that evoke a sense of impending doom or apocalyptic themes. This type of drumming typically features powerful double bass pedal work, intricate fills, and thunderous beats that contribute to the overall dark and intense atmosphere commonly found in heavy-metal music. Drummers who excel at “doomsday drumming” are known for their technical proficiency, speed, and ability to create a sense of urgency and heaviness in their playing. In heavy-metal music, the drums play a crucial role in driving the energy and intensity of the music. “Doomsday drumming” is a term used to describe a specific style of drumming that is well-suited to the dark, aggressive themes often explored in heavy-metal lyrics. This style of drumming is characterised by its relentless energy, precision, and ability to enhance the overall mood of the music. Drummers who specialise in “doomsday drumming” often showcase their skills through rapid-fire double bass pedal patterns, intricate fills that add complexity to the music, and powerful beats that create a sense of impending chaos or destruction. The goal of this style of drumming is to complement the heavy riffs and aggressive vocals typical of heavy metal music while adding an extra layer of intensity and urgency. 

In heavy-metal music, the term “tectonic guitar” refers to a style of guitar playing characterised by powerful, aggressive, and often complex riffs that create a massive, earth-shaking sound. This term is used to describe the impact and intensity of the guitar work in heavy-metal music, likening it to the immense forces involved in tectonic plate movements that shape the Earth's crust. Tectonic guitar playing typically involves heavy, distorted guitar riffs that drive the energy and intensity of the music. These riffs are often played with great force and precision, creating a wall of sound that dominates the sonic landscape. 
Tectonic guitar playing in heavy-metal music often showcases intricate patterns, fast-paced solos, and technical proficiency. Guitarists who excel in this style demonstrate advanced skills in shredding, tapping, and other techniques that push the boundaries of what is musically possible on the instrument. Beyond just technical skill, tectonic guitar playing is also known for its emotional depth and ability to convey powerful feelings through music. The intense and sometimes dark emotions evoked by this style of guitar playing contribute to its impact on listeners. Tectonic guitar work is often layered with other instruments in heavy-metal music to create a dense and immersive sonic experience. The interplay between multiple guitars, bass lines, drums, and vocals adds depth and complexity to the overall sound of the music. The concept of tectonic guitar has had a significant influence on the development of heavy metal music as a genre. It has become synonymous with the raw power and energy that define metal music, shaping the way guitarists approach their instruments and compose their songs.

Someone suggested this could be an AI generated post. I don't care how seemingly well written. If it's AI generated, and I'm strongly convinced it is, it's spam

edit: forgot the link http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129001&PID=6139867#6139867

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^ maybe not spam, but it's AI generated indeed. If only it was a bit edited, so it did not look so obviously copy-pasted from ChatGPT probably. 

Edited by Cristi - June 01 2024 at 04:17
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Dealt with (Sv/Mo etc.).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2024 at 06:43
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ maybe not spam, but it's AI generated indeed.
This is a contradictory statement in its purest form. ;)
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ maybe not spam, but it's AI generated indeed.
This is a contradictory statement in its purest form. ;)

is it?! Confused
Some information on music generated by ChatGPT could be, like it or not, useful. 
It's just a lazy way (also an easy way) to do it. 

Spam is also something abusive, like an obnoxious uninvited guest. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2024 at 07:10
Quote Some information on music generated by ChatGPT could be, like it or not, useful.
Yes and no. It depends on what information you want ChatGPT to give you. If it's some basic stuff then there's a high chance it's not gonna tell you any bogus bullshіt. But when it comes to more complex debatable topics or politics, ChatGPT is worthless. B)

Except, that doesn't matter cuz in the end Progarchives Forum is an internet message board meant for you to have conversations with real people. It's not an automatic robotic encyclopedia filled with partially useful info and partially dumbass crap (like the aforementioned doomsday drumming and tectonic guitars). Filling this place with ChatGPT bots is certainly far from the spirit of this forum.

And even if you don't agree with all I've just said, you will admit this. "Watanabe" (more like Roboto-San) did not put any information or a disclaimer they were using AI generated text in their posts. That alone is scamming. It's against the forum guidelines anyway.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2024 at 07:17
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote Some information on music generated by ChatGPT could be, like it or not, useful.
Yes and no. It depends on what information you want ChatGPT to give you. If it's some basic stuff then there's a high chance it's not gonna tell you any bogus bullshіt. But when it comes to more complex debatable topics or politics, ChatGPT is worthless. B)

Except, that doesn't matter cuz in the end Progarchives Forum is an internet message board meant for you to have conversations with real people. It's not an automatic robotic encyclopedia filled with partially useful info and partially dumbass crap (like the aforementioned doomsday drumming and tectonic guitars). Filling this place with ChatGPT bots is certainly far from the spirit of this forum.

I agree with what you say. 
 
Nobody wants ChatGPT created posts for sure, but in the end it's not spam. 
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Quote Nobody wants ChatGPT created posts for sure, but in the end it's not spam.

Spam is also something abusive, like an obnoxious uninvited guest. LOL
You've contradicted yourself once again. Wow! I mean, you're saying it's not spam yet it fits the definition of spam you'd stated before. Schrödinger's spam. :P I mean, I kind of understand why you might be simping for ChatGPT but it's getting ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote Nobody wants ChatGPT created posts for sure, but in the end it's not spam.

Spam is also something abusive, like an obnoxious uninvited guest. LOL
You've contradicted yourself once again. Wow!

How?! Ouch

What does spam mean to you?! Confused
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Spam = unwanted post. If nobody wants it, it's spam. It's not just my words. It's your words as well.

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Spam = unwanted post. If nobody wants it, it's spam.

Just "unwanted"?! It's a little bit more. If it's "unwanted:, then someone going off-topic in a thread, it's spam. Someone's trolling and mockery can be considered spam. 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2024 at 00:52
I think that providing misleading/false information with the use of a AI bots is spam as well. The forum rules were written in 2005 when AI bots were not a thing yet. But now, it's an evolving grey area. And it's becoming more and more dangerous because it gives trolls and scammers new powerful weaponry. The "tectonic guitars" thing was just a taster of what spambots can do to ruin a human-based discussion community, injecting loads upon loads of machine-made nonsense into our online conversations.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Spam = unwanted post. If nobody wants it, it's spam. It's not just my words. It's your words as well.


In the context of forums, my understanding of the term 'spam' is that it refers to posts that have no relevance to the discussion in hand, AND are made purely for the purpose of self promotion, or promoting a product or cause (that no-one is remotely interested in).

Subsequently it differs substantially from practices such as going off topic, or trolling.
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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Spam = unwanted post. If nobody wants it, it's spam. It's not just my words. It's your words as well.


In the context of forums, my understanding of the term 'spam' is that it refers to posts that have no relevance to the discussion in hand, AND are made purely for the purpose of self promotion, or promoting a product or cause (that no-one is remotely interested in).

Subsequently it differs substantially from practices such as going off topic, or trolling.


Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

no relevance to the discussion in hand


Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

discussion


Yes. Indeed. Discussion. AI bots are by design not able to participate in a discussion because they lack self awareness.
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Spam is a bit like prog, isn't it? People use the term as if there were a single clearly and unambiguously defined true meaning of it, but there isn't. In a discussion we can try to make transparent how people use such terms differently, but there is no authority for saying this one is right and that one is wrong.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Floydoid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2024 at 07:14
I suspect the term derives from the classic Monty Python Spam sketch - it's foisted upon you whether you want it or not.

When it comes to emailed spam it probably applies to anything from sources you've never heard of, advertising stuff you don't want (and probably also a scam).

As for technical definitions for these kind of terms I usually refer to Computer Hope.

https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/spam.htm
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