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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 14:03 | ||
Could you please copy and paste what response/reality is upsetting me? I don't know what you're talking about. Be specific. As long as you respond in generalities and vague opinions about arguments that I have not made...with the exception that I speculate that whoever wins the most swing states in 2024...becomes our next President. However, that is not an argument. It's just my opinion. I don't feel upset. I have not stated an argument. I posted a law. I posted links to polls. I asked questions. Let me make an argument...My argument is that I did not make an argument. However, what follows is an argument. I posted a factual law. That is not an argument. It's a statement of the current reality of American law. If you believe it's an argument. Please explain how. I posted links to polls. That is not an argument. If you disagree with the poll...feel free to post your own polls. I asked questions. Questions are not arguments. If you believe questions are arguments...please provide proof and your explanation on how a question is an argument. Please provide specific answers, examples with explanations, or something more lucid than "This One". I provided specific polls, questions, and a law. Please don't be vague. Edited by omphaloskepsis - May 09 2024 at 14:04 |
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suitkees
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 13:38 | ||
This one. And you know damn well what I'm talking about, you just ran out of arguments.
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 13:33 | ||
What "response/reality" do I not like? Please explain, because I don't understand what you are talking about. |
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suitkees
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 13:10 | ||
I replied to the question you asked "Specifically, what are my hypotheses/speculations?" by showing them. I understand you want to drag us into you delusional theories, but that's not how I work: I'm just deconstructing your logic (or maybe I should say your lack thereof...). You can bring in many other topics, but they will not answer the question at hand: the law regarding voting rights of illegal aliens. It has been addressed above; you don't like the response/reality so you try to drag things into other territories: the by now classic strategy of conspiracy theorists and extremists. You've become very transparent in that respect. Edited by suitkees - May 09 2024 at 13:17 |
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65244 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 12:57 | ||
Hey, it's just one big "Uniparty"... according to Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Margie? Are you here? Did you join a prog website to harass anyone who sees through the psychosis of the right-wing? Welcome anyway, I'd rather you be here than following & pestering kids who were in a mass shooting. We could use you're kind of moxie here ! |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 12:50 | ||
Please answer the question, that I asked. It's a Yes/No question? Should illegal's votes count...if that's the only way that Biden can defeat Trump? I ask this question because all the swing states went for Biden in 2020. You live in France. In America, we use the Electoral College system. Please don't think that is a hypothesis or conspiracy theory. It's true. I speculate ( Yes, you can accuse me of this speculation)...I speculate that the Presidential candidate (Trump/Biden) who wins the most swing states...wins the 2024 election. The Washington Post found that the 2020 winner would have changed by flipping just over 81,000 votes in four states (Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Georgia). What is the current state of the swing states? Well, it depends on which media outlet you use. Here is a recent, fairly balanced article on the Swing State situation... https://www.axios.com/2024/05/06/biden-trump-election-swing-states And a recent state-by-state Presidential election poll... https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/ Edited by omphaloskepsis - May 09 2024 at 13:02 |
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suitkees
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 12:14 | ||
QED
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 12:06 | ||
I'm glad you find humor in my posts! The law is the law. I was curious what my fellow PA member's opinions were. What's wrong with that? The PA site thrives on facts combined with opinions. Facts? Who is in the band? Opinions? Album ratings. You speak in the plural form of my hypotheses. Specifically, what are my hypotheses/speculations? I quoted a law. How is that a hypothesis? I asked questions. How are my questions hypotheses? |
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suitkees
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 11:37 | ||
^ Oh, you're funny. Someone shows you the "bottom line" of the law you asked for but then you deflect with a series of hypothetical statements: 4 in total. If, if, if, if... I'm waiting for "solid evidence with statistics for these", because your hypotheses are based on nothing but speculations put forward by the typical far-right extremists narrative and ideologies. Just for once admit that you're one of them. |
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339 |
Posted: May 09 2024 at 11:01 | ||
If two million illegals vote for Biden and Trump loses by less than 100,000 votes...Are you OK with the illegal votes counting for Biden? If Trump takes this law to court...in your opinion, should the illegal votes count or not? If Trump becomes the next President of the USA IF the court overturns the illegal votes would you be for the illegal's votes counting? Please prove your claim that "the chance of said fraudulent voter being a white Republican is far greater than all other designations, parties or peoples." is true. I'm waiting for solid evidence with statistics...because your claim infers stats to support your claim.
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65244 |
Posted: May 08 2024 at 19:35 | ||
^ Hear, hear.
It is becoming much more clear that the vast majority of immigrants not only don't fraudulently vote, they are largely law-abiding people who are just glad to be here. The right-wing is a sick, demented, unethical, anti-human group of people who are so desperate that they've convinced themselves it's better to lie, cheat & steal. Their days are numbered in this country, and shame on anyone who continues to support this sociopathic movement. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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The Dark Elf
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13049 |
Posted: May 08 2024 at 17:58 | ||
§611. Voting by aliens Effective Date of 2000 Amendment 611has been on the books in one form or another since June 25, 1948, and the most recent Amendment was effective as of 2000. So, the law has been in its present form for 24 years. To date, there has been no flood of aliens voting. The fact is, voter fraud is extremely rare (far less than a percentage point). And in those cases where voter fraud is actually confirmed, the chance of said fraudulent voter being a white Republican is far greater than all other designations, parties or peoples. And I'm not even counting the fake Republican electors who are in the process of being prosecuted.
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339 |
Posted: May 08 2024 at 10:00 | ||
What's the bottom line on the law? How the courts rule on the law...if there is a flood of illegal votes. I'm not the court. My fellow PA members are not the courts. Time will tell. The courts will tell us. If I was Trump...I would choose Tulsi Gabbard as my running mate. Gabbard is a vet. Gabbard gabs like a bard. She balances liberal and conservative values. I'd like to see an all-female vice presidential debate. Gabbart vs Harris.
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suitkees
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
Posted: May 08 2024 at 07:06 | ||
^ Yes, but you know that reading and understanding legal texts is not the conspiracy theorist's forte... We know by now that Marjorie Taylor Greene is a Putin apologist, but the fascist tendencies in the GOP really seem to take over... When do "moderate" Republicans stand up against that?
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progaardvark
Collaborator Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 50929 |
Posted: May 08 2024 at 03:31 | ||
Also note the word and at the end of part (2) of subsection (c). All three parts of subsection (c) must apply.
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Mirakaze
Special Collaborator Eclectic, JRF/Canterbury, Avant/Zeuhl Joined: December 17 2019 Location: (redacted) Status: Offline Points: 4060 |
Posted: May 08 2024 at 00:09 | ||
I think that just says that if a non-citizen casts a vote they cannot be prosecuted as long as they reasonably believed themselves to be a citizen. The word "reasonably" is key here either way, and will throw out the vast majority of bad faith actors in any hypothetical court case.
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339 |
Posted: May 07 2024 at 20:08 | ||
There is a loophole in US law that allows illegal aliens to vote. If the illegal alien believes that he/she is a citizen at the time they vote...their vote is legal.
§611. Voting by aliens(a) It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless- (1) the election is held partly for some other purpose; (2) aliens are authorized to vote for such other purpose under a State constitution or statute or a local ordinance; and (3) voting for such other purpose is conducted independently of voting for a candidate for such Federal offices, in such a manner that an alien has the opportunity to vote for such other purpose, but not an opportunity to vote for a candidate for any one or more of such Federal offices. (b) Any person who violates this section shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than one year, or both. (c) Subsection (a) does not apply to an alien if- (1) each natural parent of the alien (or, in the case of an adopted alien, each adoptive parent of the alien) is or was a citizen (whether by birth or naturalization); (2) the alien permanently resided in the United States prior to attaining the age of 16; and (3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18%20section:611%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title18-section611)&f=treesort&edition=prelim&num=0&jumpTo=true Edited by omphaloskepsis - May 07 2024 at 20:09 |
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Special Collaborator PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15242 |
Posted: May 01 2024 at 23:09 | ||
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339 |
Posted: May 01 2024 at 21:35 | ||
By a 320-91 bipartisan vote, the House passed a bill that makes it illegal to criticize Jews/Israel. All in all, it's just another brick in the wall... against free speech.
Why do I disagree with this bill? Because this bill erodes free speech. I may hate what you say, but you have the right to say it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-vote-bipartisan-antisemitism-awareness-093028202.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall Here are a few examples of what would be a federal crime to say...
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mathman0806
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 6399 |
Posted: April 28 2024 at 17:30 | ||
That is funny!
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