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    Posted: April 22 2024 at 03:31
I'm thinking of stuff like Who's Next, Led Zeppelin IV, Deep Purple in Rock, etc. Do you have other examples of classic rock albums that are close to the edge of prog? Big smile
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Uriah Heep—The Magician's Birthday
The Incredible Sting Band—ITKOS
Black Contry Communion—IV
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In the northeast of the United States and around Boston, Quill was a well-liked local attraction. Almost every member of the band could play many instruments, and they had a habit of switching them up while performing. At any moment during a set, guitarists and keyboardists will switch to horns, cellos, or woodwind instruments. Aside from being unexpected, the music itself has a unique, purposefully bizarre sound that falls between early British progressive rock and American psychedelic rock. The songs themselves have equally ridiculous titles, and the band members are all credited under wigged-out pseudonyms. The most noticeable instrument is frequently the bass guitar. Sonically, it's sparsely realised despite the performers' diverse skill sets, filled by barely audible organs and pianos as well as mixed-back guitars and drums. 

 The arrangements seem to be casual and improvised, a style that can only be achieved with extremely meticulous planning and orchestration. Loaded with social satire, the lyrics depart significantly from the popular hippy abandon of the time, and the backing tracks feature an odd assortment of chord progressions and modulations. The way it transitions between songs, and sometimes even within a single track, can be erratic.

They performed at Woodstock in 1969, but owing to technical difficulties, only a few minutes of their performance were filmed. Thus, Quill didn't feature in the Woodstock movie. Probably the destiny of this gifted band would have been very different if they had been in the film. Following the release of their self-titled album in 1970, they broke up. 



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I think WIRE “154” is proggiest. What a great album. Shreikback also has a proggy sort of style. The Stranglers “Dreamtime” also does it for me.   Quadrophenia, DSotM, Zappa, Roxy Music.
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City Boy and 10cc come to mind...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2024 at 07:40
Quadrophenia without a doubt. Meat Loaf's Bat out of Hell (the first one) is not prog but has some proggy elements and arrangements. The 3rd side of Extreme's Three Sides to Every Story. Quite a lot of early Queen.
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To avoid mentioning repeats... I want to say classic Moodies or Procol Harum
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

To avoid mentioning repeats... I want to say classic Moodies or Procol Harum

I think both are progressive rock, call them art-rock, crossover, proto-prog, all these tags are correct IMO. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

To avoid mentioning repeats... I want to say classic Moodies or Procol Harum

I think both are progressive rock, call them art-rock, crossover, proto-prog, all these tags are correct IMO. Smile

I can't argue with that, but...

Some users already mentioned the likes of Who, Uriah Heep, etc... so I didn't figure I was off the ball

Where do we draw the line? The eternal question bears repeating I guess Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2024 at 08:44
Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

To avoid mentioning repeats... I want to say classic Moodies or Procol Harum

I think both are progressive rock, call them art-rock, crossover, proto-prog, all these tags are correct IMO. Smile

I can't argue with that, but...

Some users already mentioned the likes of Who, Uriah Heep, etc... so I didn't figure I was off the ball

Where do we draw the line? The eternal question bears repeating I guess Big smile

A few Uriah Heep albums fit under heavy-prog, others are just hard rock. 

My bad, hope this thread does not reach the "what is prog?" arguing again... 


Edited by Cristi - April 22 2024 at 09:47
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The Who
Queen
Supertramp
Radiohead
Deep Purple
Rainbow
Sabbath
Tull

take your pick
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Valdez1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2024 at 09:05
Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:


The Who
Queen
Supertramp
Radiohead
Deep Purple
Rainbow
Sabbath
Tull

take your pick


Yes. Radiohead. Supertramp. the who. I always thought Tull was a long time sure thing. Sabbath , Queen and Rainbow not so much.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2024 at 09:12
I see Prog as a spectrum and an umbrella, and it's an impossible question for me to answer partially as there is no clear dividing line between Prog and non-Prog and there is much I have not heard. The Prog/non-Prog dichotomy commonly does not work for me even when it comes to limiting itself to classic rock. Still, since I a team player and adaptable, , I choose Cream's Wheels of Fire.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2024 at 09:16
Precisely. There's no distinction between the least proggy prog album and the proggiest non-prog album like there is between the cheapest Gibson and the most expensive Epiphone for example!

I mean, when does a non-prog album become a prog album? Where's the divide? Is it determined by the Progarchives label? That's ridiculous imho. I mean, let's ask ourselves this: when does a dialect become a language? The answer is: when a certain reliable/trustworthy group/panel or community says so and enough people agree with them to the point, it is encyclopedially accepted. But for music, this mythical "prog amount" is even trickier to agree upon because there are so many variables and they're all different for each subgenre, style or even mood of the album. In addition to that, the perception of musical style can be really really different from person to person, even when each one is an expert on musicology.

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^ Very well-expressed.
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It's the equivalent of asking 'how long is a piece of string?'.
'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.'
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Romantic Warrior by Return to Forever
Abbey Road by The Beatles
The 5th Symphony by Beethoven.
Toccata and Fugue in d minor by JS Bach
Long live Progresive music!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2024 at 15:02
"Heaven and Hell" by Black Sabbath 

"Force It" by UFO 

"Captain Beyond" by Captain Beyond

"Queen 2" by Queen

...and so forth.  Lots to choose from. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2024 at 12:35
If song cycles, segues, and sound effects connecting songs is one's idea of prog (being reared on Floyd, it is for me!), then this first album by Joe Walsh is one I always adored (especially side 1's song cycle):




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