No more drama

At least you weren't ignored. That's far worse.

For some time now I don't discuss politics or social topics online, 'cause I know it can easily lead to arguments and dramas. And forums are echo chambers. I'm a member of a forum about a popular Polish TV show and that forum is filled with almost exclusively right-wingers or alt-right people. And every time a political topic is talked about over there, and someone says something homophobic, racist or really really fricking stupid and a whole bunch of other users just agree, and nobody even questions that unethical way of thinking, nobody comes over with a counterargument, I cringe of embarrassment.

The forum users are like a bunch of surströmmings rotting in their online echo chamber tin can, and when someone from the outside world opens this can up, there comes that awful stench.

Edited by Hrychu - April 12 2024 at 21:46

Atavachron wrote: ^ That may be true, but those forum posters are misled assh*les and it's important to remember that.   You're either on the side of humanity or you're not.

That's true. And that's why on that forum, I exclusively talk about the technical aspects of the TV Show.

Gotta have some drama !

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Atavachron wrote: You're either on the side of humanity or you're not. Do you think that anyone who disagrees with the views you hold on these important topics is automatically evil? I think that for many of these matters (homophobia for instance) there is a range of opinions out there, and not all people that are incompatible with my views on the issue are "bad people". So at least for me, I don't feel anger towards them, or the need to insult them.

I actually agree with you, Mike. That's the reason I didn't cancel that forum and kept talking with those users about the show. I just don't talk with them about politics etc.

I believe that despite having different views than a certain group of people, who are into the same franchise or music style (you get the idea) as you, and despite the fact you hate their views with a passion, you can still get along. 👍

Edited by Hrychu - April 13 2024 at 00:14

^^ Yes, I really believe that one of the most important things we need to do to preserve our liberal society is to try to get along with people who have different views. Within reasonable limits of course. This "corridor of allowable opinions" isn't infinitely wide for most people. 

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Society has changed a lot - as I mentioned elsewhere, in the 90s there was more room for disagreement. The "corridor of allowable opinions", if you will, was much wider than it is today.  ...

moshkito wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: Society has changed a lot - as I mentioned elsewhere, in the 90s there was more room for disagreement. The "corridor of allowable opinions", if you will, was much wider than it is today.  ... Hi, I think a lot of this had to do with the rise of the Internet. I was involved in the very early Fido threads about progressive music, and while there were a lot of folks there that knew their stuff, there were a lot of folks that also had never heard of a lot of things. In general, the Internet became the place to find and learn about any band, from anywhere, which is something that was not available before, and only a few magazines touched up a thing or two, and this made room for bad reviews, like in one specific magazine, it trashed Van der Graaf and Peter Hammill for not knowing how to sing ... let me tell you that I think that magazine went down to the pits in the next year or so ... and that folks that were on the fringe, all of a sudden woke up and spoke. The internet, has been massive, for the revelation of what "progressive" is, and has been. Things kinda died in the 80's because there was not a whole lot of publicity about any music, but the Internet around 1990, pretty much changed history right there.

Internet or not...there will always be a "Back In The Woods " mentality in the social environment where I live.

And that's Cumberland County. Vineland, Millville and Bridgeton, New Jersey

With music it all began in 1974 when Robin Trower Bridge Of Sighs was released. When Southern Rock went commercial unlike the Almann Brothers Band at the Fillmore East which had a Progressive edge to it.

Fiocchi...you're into Gong? Popol Vuh? Amon Duul II? That's why you're all F up in the head because you listen to Electronic Music and Prog. These were low life characters that Gary Busey often imitated. The world of CCR .

They were full of ignorant stupidity. If they noticed you read Harlan Ellison or Herman Hesse it usually meant that you were mentally challenged.

They couldn't understand my record collection.

"Yeah...Greenslade..is that a crayon company?"

"Yeah...Three Friends...wasn't that Newell, Williams & Sweikert at Menantico?"

"Yeah...Steve Hachett wasn't he an axe murderer?"

"Yeah..Art Zoyd..wasn't he Richard Ramirez?"

"Yeah...Pulsar ..is that your watch?"

"Yeah...Ange ..is that a fruit?"

Don't come here. Don't ever come here . Warning you. It's the most backwards place in America...Its an insult to the Southern United States where bands like Camel are respected and not thought to be the cigarettes..

verslibre wrote: ^ Hey, John! You'll no doubt be pleased to know I've actually been blocked on other sites by users because of Harlan. You know, the usual derision, my rebuttal, they throw out more crap about HE (while admitting they've never actually read him) and how he was a "troll," etc., etc. When I try to actually cultivate a narrative, they shut down. Bugf*ck! Art Zoyd = Richard Ramirez? What now?

Hahahahaha! Omg...that is insane! All over Harlan? But I guess I'm not surprised anymore...anything goes I suppose? Wow that is truly anal though not unlike Mayslanding, New Jersey where people act as if John Fogerty is the next messiah. Or that Swamp Rock should be practiced 10 hours a day..Its not Mozart or Paganini..its Swamp Rock... 😃

I would argue that drama is a fundamental component of the universe, just like diapers and swirly straws.