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    Posted: April 02 2024 at 22:04
I actually started thinking about this because I’ve decided to give Carole King a try this week. So I stumbled over «Fantasy». Which to me feels like her gentle and rather exquisite «What’s Going On» sort of album. It’s a worldview as seen through her lens and one song flows into the next. Sure it doesn’t hit as hard as Gaye’s masterpiece, but it’s very enjoyable.

Anyway: I’ve collected 24 albums that are normally thought of as concept albums (alternatively «Rock Operas»), that either has a concept explained by the artist - or I simply experience the album as conceptual or having a storyline, myself. I left out some albums I personally like, that's often considered conceptual in one way or another, but I’m unable to connect the dots in any meaningful way (such as Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness and Songs For The Deaf)

-With some of these artists like Tom Waits, The Caretaker and Sufjan Stevens… most of their albums have a concept, so I chose one I felt was representative. I suppose scores for movies such as Superfly, The Virgin Suicides or… Amelie - and music made for a play or a ballet (as with several by Waits) might as well have been included. But I didn’t. As I would suddenly have hundreds - if not thousands of releases to consider. I broke my own rule of only allowing one album per artist, as Sinatra’s 1955-entry is often considered the very first concept album, and Watertown is just too essential to leave out.

If you vote for «Other» please let me know which one. Well, let me know which one regardless. It’s not so much about the poll, really. An idea or a thought that unifies an album as a whole usually lift the listening experience for me, which is why this is an interesting topic to me.


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Over the last few years I have listened so much to Histoire de Melody Nelson. More recently I really got heavily into Sufjan Stevens' Illinois and PJ Harvey's Let England Shake, A Love Supreme is an older favourite. It;s tough for me to choose between them. A minute ago I was going to vote Illinois, right now I'll vote for the Gainsbourg. Those are all really great album per my tastes. And I like Hayter's Saved! a lot too.
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Tom Waits - Rain Dogs. One of my all-time favourites. 
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Skylarking for me. Todd Rundgren is a great producer and the way he arranged the songs to segue together is perfect. Of course "Dear God" is a masterpiece.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Skylarking for me. Todd Rundgren is a great producer and the way he arranged the songs to segue together is perfect. Of course "Dear God" is a masterpiece.
But actually not on the original release of the album.
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Very few albums I've listened to here, also some of them are not my thing. So no vote this time. 
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XTC - Skylarking
The Kinks - Arthur (Decline And Fall)
Alice Cooper - Welcome To My Nightmare
Donna Summer - Four Seasons Of Love

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Over the last few years I have listened so much to Histoire de Melody Nelson. More recently I really got heavily into Sufjan Stevens' Illinois and PJ Harvey's Let England Shake, A Love Supreme is an older favourite. It;s tough for me to choose between them. A minute ago I was going to vote Illinois, right now I'll vote for the Gainsbourg. Those are all really great album per my tastes. And I like Hayter's Saved! a lot too.
Although I listened to it for the first time over twenty years ago, only recently have I really gotten into Histoire de Melody Nelson. Sometimes, or should I say quite often when I come back to albums that didn't register as something out of the ordinary - but I know are supposed to be: they click. I have to be in the right mood or maybe I'm at the right age. Or maybe I needed some more listening experience first.
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Illinois > XTC, John Coltrane, PJ Harvey, Tom Waits.

I thought a bit about "Other" and in principle many come to mind but I have to admit that for most of these I'm not really sure whether they are "concept albums", many even being instrumental. "I simply experience the album as conceptual", yeah, that makes sense. Pretty much any of Barbara Morgenstern's or Radian's or Everything Everything's albums for example. 
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Illinois > XTC, John Coltrane, PJ Harvey, Tom Waits.

I thought a bit about "Other" and in principle many come to mind but I have to admit that for most of these I'm not really sure whether they are "concept albums", many even being instrumental. "I simply experience the album as conceptual", yeah, that makes sense. Pretty much any of Barbara Morgenstern's or Radian's or Everything Everything's albums for example. 
Yes I thought about many of those potentially concept albums that are largely instrumental myself. But it was easier for me to make a poll focusing on albums that the lyrical aspect sort of defines the concept. With an Exception for A Love Supreme. As it is seen as a defining conceptual jazz album. But Time Out!, Sketches of Spain, The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady and many more before it, operates within clearly defined concepts as well. About half of the selection is based on a sort of "consensus" in regards to essential concept albums. This selection doen't really reflect my personal taste (although I enjoy most of these).



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I don't really know any of these well enough to vote.  I've heard 4 of them, and of those, Alice Cooper's Welcome to My Nightmare would get my vote. 

The first "other" album that I immediately thought of was Meat Loaf's Bat Out of Hell.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I don't really know any of these well enough to vote.  I've heard 4 of them, and of those, Alice Cooper's Welcome to My Nightmare would get my vote. 

The first "other" album that I immediately thought of was Meat Loaf's Bat Out of Hell.
Yes, I thought about it and forgot. I've never actually listened to BOoH in full. But I know it's one of the defining rock operas. Is there an actual concept to the whole album?
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The "experts" can't seem to agree.  Possibly not.  A Rock Opera.  It was turned into a musical.  It's songs are thematic.  https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91969

I suppose that I've never really paid that much attention to that album either.  I guess that I always thought it was a concept album.
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The only one I can think of is The Tubes - Remote Control (produced by Todd Rundgren). It's about Television as apparently they were obsessed with it at the time. Fun album.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Over the last few years I have listened so much to Histoire de Melody Nelson. More recently I really got heavily into Sufjan Stevens' Illinois and PJ Harvey's Let England Shake, A Love Supreme is an older favourite. It;s tough for me to choose between them. A minute ago I was going to vote Illinois, right now I'll vote for the Gainsbourg. Those are all really great album per my tastes. And I like Hayter's Saved! a lot too.
Although I listened to it for the first time over twenty years ago, only recently have I really gotten into Histoire de Melody Nelson. Sometimes, or should I say quite often when I come back to albums that didn't register as something out of the ordinary - but I know are supposed to be: they click. I have to be in the right mood or maybe I'm at the right age. Or maybe I needed some more listening experience first.


It;s the Jean-Claude Vannier connection, and my love of choral type vocals. that first got me really interested. I adore Vannier's L'enfant assassin des mouches (also could count as a concept album) which was based on a Gainsbourg idea. Vannier was the arranger for Histoire de Melody Nelson. I now find I like various Gainsbourg music from various albums, like Initials B.B (with the iconic Bonnie and Clyde track) and Cannabis.... I loved Cargo Culte especially at first off Histoire but then founmd I really like the whole album.

The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars by David Bowie is an other that could fit. I am a very big fan of Bowie.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Over the last few years I have listened so much to Histoire de Melody Nelson. More recently I really got heavily into Sufjan Stevens' Illinois and PJ Harvey's Let England Shake, A Love Supreme is an older favourite. It;s tough for me to choose between them. A minute ago I was going to vote Illinois, right now I'll vote for the Gainsbourg. Those are all really great album per my tastes. And I like Hayter's Saved! a lot too.
Although I listened to it for the first time over twenty years ago, only recently have I really gotten into Histoire de Melody Nelson. Sometimes, or should I say quite often when I come back to albums that didn't register as something out of the ordinary - but I know are supposed to be: they click. I have to be in the right mood or maybe I'm at the right age. Or maybe I needed some more listening experience first.


It;s the Jean-Claude Vannier connection, and my love of choral type vocals. that first got me really interested. I adore Vannier's L'enfant assassin des mouches (also could count as a concept album) which was based on a Gainsbourg idea. Vannier was the arranger for Histoire de Melody Nelson. I now find I like various Gainsbourg music from various albums, like Initials B.B (with the iconic Bonnie and Clyde track) and Cannabis.... I loved Cargo Culte especially at first off Histoire but then founmd I really like the whole album.

The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars by David Bowie is an other that could fit. I am a very big fan of Bowie.
Absolutely. Both LL'enfant assassin des mouches and Ziggy Stardust.. would have been included in the poll if Vannier and Bowie weren't represented in Eclectic and Prog-Related on PA
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^ I missed it all being out of PA. Sufjan Stevens I had though might be included here (might still be). Speaking of another progressive folk artist not in PA with concept album, Joanna Newsom's Ys. So much that could be in PA.

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^ Ys is yet another album I love (but haven't listened to in years) that I never really figured out what the unifying concept was supposed to be. And btw: If Joanna Newsom doesn't qualify as Progressive Folk, I don't know what does.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ Ys is yet another album I love (but haven't listened to in years) that I never really figured out what the unifying concept was supposed to be. And btw: If Joanna Newsom doesn't qualify as Progressive Folk, I don't know what does.

Has she been suggested for prog-folk or crossover? 
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