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Jaketejas
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Liechtenstein has an underground Prog scene … like Dark Side of Me.
So don’t knock Liechtensteinian Prog until you’ve heard it. Very underground though. Did I mention that? Edited by Jaketejas - January 13 2024 at 19:25 |
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David_D
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Whatever you can tell.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Tapfret
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It's a trick question. Prog isn't successful anywhere.
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It was successful back in its heyday, but if you're talking about nowadays it's underground af. Anyway I'd say Central Europe and the good ol' USA if we're talking about dope Avant-Prog.
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David_D
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I can tell as much as, you don't seem to like it.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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LAM-SGC
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I never found a prog section in any record shop in London, Dublin, Edinburgh, Belfast, Rome, Stockholm in the decades I was visiting them.
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Grumpyprogfan
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^Has any record store had a prog section?
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progaardvark
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Record Connection in Ephrata, Pennsylvania, currently has had one for at least the last 20 years (I discovered it in 2003). I haven't visited it in over a decade because online stores are cheaper and it saves on gas. The owner used to sell prog CDs at the local Rites of Spring festival when it was held in Gettysburg. I never made it to the festival. Wish I had. They did have some nice acts show up. EDIT: Actually I was in that area a month ago but only because there are a lot of antique malls along PA state route 272 that were all having 20% off sales. I didn't have the time to visit Record Connection and was low on funds because I bought a 1973 Topps Mike Schmidt rookie card.
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Edited by SteveG - January 15 2024 at 17:46 |
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Grumpyprogfan
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^Cool! Any record stores with a prog section outside USA?
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richardh
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In my limited experience (although it does include a trip to Cologne to take in a massive record store that you could spend a whole day wandering around) you will get seperate sections for metal and punk/indie but not for prog. Generally there will be a rock section which conventionally means 'classic rock' and will include all your ELP, Yes, Floyd and Tull etc etc.
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^I don't think I've ever seen a prog section in USA or the UK (or more specifically in New York or London. I did come across one in either Glasgow, Edinburgh or Dublin). But in my experience, progsections in record stores I've visited all over Europe is not particularly unusual at all. Progfans are passionate about their music and among those who seriously buys and collect albums + are willing to spend a lot of money for music. It would be bad for business not to make yourself attractive for this group of costumers. Record store owners/workers are often progfans themselves. I often see the relevant genres separated into something like: Progressive Rock, Jazzrock, (Progressive) Electronic, Experimental and surprisingly often: Krautrock. I'd say all these sections are just as common - or more than New Wave/Post-Punk. +there's been several progsections at every single record fair I've ever been to. But that's perhaps less surprising.
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^also variations of combined Prog/Psych/Spacerock-sections
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The last time I was in Toronto (I think in 2000), the HMV on Yonge Street had a prog section on its second floor. I don't believe that place is in business anymore. There was also a store called Black Planet on Queen Street that had a prog section. Black Planet was also Si-Wan Records' distribution center outside of South Korea. I remember buying TFK's Flower Power there, which was hard to get in the States at the time. I think Black Planet disappeared in the early 2000s.
In NYC there were two CD stores that had prog sections around the late 1990s into the early 2000s: Outer Music, which I believe was around the corner from The Strand bookstore. I remember they had a lot of Eloy CDs there. The other store, which I can't remember the name of, focused more on psych stuff and was about 3-4 blocks east of The Strand and was in the basement of a house. I wish I could remember what that place was called. I haven't been to Manhattan or Toronto in the last 20 years.
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Hi, Like a lot of arts, things are not always top of the pops or "successful". The main issue here is that we only declare something "successful" when we find that it sold XXXXXXXXXXXXX numbers of something ... and these days, this is difficult to figure out, since so many bands can distribute their own, and thus having their own numbers. The record company likes to make the case that it doesn't sell, like Taylor or Beyonce, but it does that on purpose to make anything else look poor and not a good commercial product, which we know is not true since so many bands have done really well without the record company! Even to the point of bands doing their own right from the start ... or having the fans drive it ... go ask PT or Marillion about that ... who needs the record company? The sad side of things is that we only look at numbers. There couldn't possibly be anything else in the work at all ... is just not true and we need to start trashing the "numbers" ... in favor of the art itself ... but that may be another issue ... in the end, we don't believe in the art! It's all pop music ... is what the numbers tell you! I'm not sure that there is a nation that is more successful than the other in prog, or jazz, or anything else ... they are all owned by the same group/groups! Thus, something that takes away from their own sales will always have not only bad numbers, it will also be thought of as poor and bad ... and often ignored. I'm not sure it matters which country this would be!
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So not UK/Great Britain, just England?!
Edited by Cristi - February 07 2024 at 03:14 |
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Why are you answering for someone else?!
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