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    Posted: February 05 2024 at 18:15
The massively popular genre that is Indie must have some prog in its right?

Do you know of any progressive indie bands? (Or maybe even discuss whether it should be added as a subgenre?)
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Space Roar is a band from Detroit, Michigan, consisting of Ryan, Jon, Drew, and Griffin. In May 2016, they released their debut EP, "ADS 7251," which sounds like an archetype of progressive indie-rock and is their only release to date.


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I would say that alot of acts could be classified as progressive indie (and a lot that I really like). A lot of it would fit adequately in Crossover or Prog Related. A big one in PA that can fit in is Radiohead. And for a recent popular one, Black Country, New Road. I like a lot of progressive indietronica like music by Stereolab, Sufjan Stevens, Bjork....
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

The massively popular genre that is Indie must have some prog in its right?

Do you know of any progressive indie bands? (Or maybe even discuss whether it should be added as a subgenre?)

The problem I have with this "genre" is that it is almost impossible to define. RYM defines "Indie Rock" as a subgenre of "Alt Rock", and especially when bands get a little more sophisticated, IMHO a label like "Alt Rock" becomes indistinguishable from "Art Rock", "Eclectic Prog" or "Crossover Prog". 
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^ But sure, for some bands/releases it seems obvious to call them "Indie [Rock]" because that is how they have been marketed and described by everyone. I've just added the genre at AP, and we'll see who/how it will be used.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

The problem I have with this "genre" is that it is almost impossible to define
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I'd say topicstarter might like most of KScope stuff, it's the first thing I think about whenever anyone brings up the "prog indie" tag
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I might throw The Dear Hunter in the Indie bucket...
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I made a whole list  not too overly long ago. So far i've detected 67 indie rock bands that are clearly progressive rock as well.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I would say that alot of acts could be classified as progressive indie (and a lot that I really like). A lot of it would fit adequately in Crossover or Prog Related. A big one in PA that can fit in is Radiohead. And for a recent popular one, Black Country, New Road. I like a lot of progressive indietronica like music by Stereolab, Sufjan Stevens, Bjork....

I would say that all those are art rock, not prog. PA seems to have let many of them in which is acceptable for a crossover category but i wouldn't call any of those artists full-blown prog.

Most sites call them art pop, art rock, chamber pop etc. Good stuff for sure.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I would say that alot of acts could be classified as progressive indie (and a lot that I really like). A lot of it would fit adequately in Crossover or Prog Related. A big one in PA that can fit in is Radiohead. And for a recent popular one, Black Country, New Road. I like a lot of progressive indietronica like music by Stereolab, Sufjan Stevens, Bjork....

I would say that all those are art rock, not prog. PA seems to have let many of them in which is acceptable for a crossover category but i wouldn't call any of those artists full-blown prog.

Most sites call them art pop, art rock, chamber pop etc. Good stuff for sure.


^ I would much sooner call those Art Rock than Prog as well, but I also would describe those as progressive in their own ways. Fr those that don't know, Prog Archives had an Art Rock category before having Crossover Prog, Eclectic Prog and Heavy Prog. Some on the art rock side went to Crossover, some Prog Related, Some Eclectic. While I supported the split/ new categories and that was a reason why I was an early member of the Eclectic Team, I have rather wished we had a specific Art Rock category that would cover much, as I think of it, Prog-adjacent music.
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I think Invalids and This Town Needs Guns fit this description!



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Ive always really rated bands such as Super Furry Animals, The Beta Band, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci (and lots more seemingly now called 'post rock') from the 90's and 2000's as really forward thinking though perhaps more psych and art than prog. And there has always been two distinct 'indie'.. bands who have always been supported by and support truely independent record labels and 'indie' bands who are mainstream, massive and on corporate labels and just called 'indie' by the music media.  

Labels such as Charisma were truely independent (at the start, 69-74/5 when bought out by phonogram) and labels such as Stiff and Rough trade continued that model.

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I have seen "Indie" bands deploy Prog sensibilities in their music.

The Chicago band "The Marquis'" (sic) had an amazing guitarist, and I was tapped to audition for bassist. When I went to jam with Todd, the first bass line I threw at him was John Wetton's muscular riff from "Lark's Tongues In Aspic Part 2."   He responded with a high-energy blast of jazz-rock notes, it was fun!

Anything can happen.  How about "prog country & western?"  Dixie Dregs is all I've got!


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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Anything can happen.  How about "prog country & western?"  Dixie Dregs is all I've got!

I could almost put the Marshall Tucker band in that category...particularly their early albums...
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