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Originally posted by vladan3101 vladan3101 wrote:

The book has around 250 figures, spread evenly among the pages. About half are diagrams and drawings that are mostly in color but were prepared so that they can be viewed in B&W  (i.e. if the graph has red and blue lines, one is solid, and the other is dashed). My estimate is that more than half of the photographs are in the B&W originally because many are quite old (in the color version, they are shown in blue hues).

The color version on glossier paper looks nicer IMHO, but in terms of reading and understanding the content, the B&W version is completely fine.



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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Just to estimate the impact of B&W vs colour, may I ask about the pictures content? Many of them or just a few? Perhaps many of them B&W anyway? Spread in most pages or just a few pages with all the pics?

The book has around 250 figures, spread evenly among the pages. About half are diagrams and drawings that are mostly in color but were prepared so that they can be viewed in B&W  (i.e. if the graph has red and blue lines, one is solid, and the other is dashed). My estimate is that more than half of the photographs are in the B&W originally because many are quite old (in the color version, they are shown in blue hues).

The color version on glossier paper looks nicer IMHO, but in terms of reading and understanding the content, the B&W version is completely fine.




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Originally posted by vladan3101 vladan3101 wrote:

Got another question about price.  Please note that the book is in large format (11 x 8.5 inches, the US letter size, close to the European A4) and has about 325 pages. The printing costs are quite high, and VAT does not help.
Thanks, it's clear now. Just to estimate the impact of B&W vs colour, may I ask about the pictures content? Many of them or just a few? Perhaps many of them B&W anyway? Spread in most pages or just a few pages with all the pics?

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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Hello Vladan. It looks very interesting!
As you can imagine a price in Europe of 95 € is very expensive! Even 47 € for a B&W book is quite expensive...
Got another question about price.  Please note that the book is in large format (11 x 8.5 inches, the US letter size, close to the European A4) and has about 325 pages. The printing costs are quite high, and VAT does not help.
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In Spain, the black and white version is at https://www.amazon.es/Electronics-Rock-Roll-Electrnics-Enabled/dp/B0CR832NVZ and goes for 33.53 €.  Your link is for colo(u)r versions.  All three seem more expensive than in the USA, not sure why, possibly VAT?  The hardcopy color version in the USA is priced at $90, Google says that it corresponds to 83.4 €, paperback in color is $48, about 44 €.

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Hello Vladan. It looks very interesting!

I'm in Europe (Spain). I see that the book is already available at Amazon.es but it says it is offered as paperback (price 47,76 €) or hardcover (price 95,76 €!!). However you talk about the book being available as B&W or colour. Maybe Amazon.es has mistaken B&W by "paperback" and colour by "hardcover"? Could you confirm this?
As you can imagine a price in Europe of 95 € is very expensive! Even 47 € for a B&W book is quite expensive...

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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

And a mention of the American FM radio? I have been, for quite since the 70's a person that attributes a lot of the progressive music fame to the American FM radio 

The book talks about the Prog Rock FM radio quite a bit, as one of the enablers of Prog Rock in the USA. This is often forgotten now, but not completely (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock_(radio_format)).

The book also talks about Radio Luxemburg and Pirate stations in Europe, without which we might not have had much R&R in the UK and possibly no British Invasion in the 1960s. In their biographies, Keith Richards and Paul McCartney talked about listening to Radio Luxemburg in their formative years.

In Europe, most radio stations were state-owned or state-sponsored (and even state-controlled behind the Iron Curtain) and played virtually no rock and roll (with a possible exception of some Pat Boone covers). 

Without Radio Caroline and a few other pirates, BBC would probably not have launched the BBC 1. I am not 100% sure because it was half a century ago, but to the best of my recollection, I first heard both Jethro Tull and Jimmy Hendrix on John Peel’s show on BBC 1.


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I would like to read this ... and would review it. The descriptions are much closer to a lot of things that I write about here on PA and its changes in time since the 60's ... no rock/prog music history can be complete without it.

And a mention of the American FM radio? I have been, for quite since the 70's a person that attributes a lot of the progressive music fame to the American FM radio and how it helped sell so much stuff ... sadly enough, in many things I mention/write about this, a lot of it is lost in the translation. Folks are mostly into "song" and their sense of history seems distorted to my view of things having been right next to the FM and its major/massive importance, and also having been a part of the start of Space Pirate Radio in January 1974 ... something that brought out even more new music than most folks can actually conceive. I posted a listing once from 1974 of the few of Guy's shows I recorded (had over 350 hours all the way to 1981) ... and the list was so far and wide ... as to not have a single comment or appreciation for the ability that FM radio presented ... at least in Southern California. It explains why so many artists have done ID's for Guy's show, knowing that they have been played on the other side of the world!
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The book has two chapters on Prog Rock: one discussing various definitions of Prog Rock, the other how vinyl LP, electronic instruments (Hammond organ, Mellotron, synthesizers, special effects), multi-track tape recorders, Hi-Fi stereo systems, Pirate radio in Europe and Prog Rock FM radio in the USA etc. enabled and shaped many aspects of this genre.

In other sections, the book covers the history of early acoustic recordings, AM radio and "Top 40," amplification and PA systems, loudspeakers, electric guitars, vinyl and magnetic recordings, FM, analog TV, etc.,  showing that there would not have been any rock and roll as we know it without advances in these audio and electronic technologies. 

Newer digital technologies like CD, DSD, samplers, sequencers, surround sound systems, MIDI, audio compression and audio editing software are also covered, although they came too late to influence most of rock and roll and even Prog Rock music in its heydays. They did impact the form and provided new distribution channels for all kinds of popular music that followed.

For each of these technologies, a detailed explanation of the working principles and a technical description is provided on a popular level, with no background in STEM required in order to understand.

A detailed explanation of the imperfections in analog and digital audio recordings is presented, with a special emphasis on vinyl disks. LPs are regaining popularity rapidly with the "vinyl revival." Many aspects of vinyl disk performance seem not to be properly understood these days, mainly because most of the analyses predate WW2, and many results have been largely forgotten by now.

The book is written by an electronic engineer, the author of the first two papers on distortions in vinyl reproduction in the "Journal of Audio Engineering Society" in almost 50 years (https://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=22236 and https://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=21560), and also an old Prog Rock fan who worked as a journalist in a rock magazine in his youth. Although popularly written, the book provides a rather rigorous presentation of the science of audio engineering and Hi-Fi. This is in contrast to much of the traditional Hi-Fi literature, which is often a source of misconceptions that muddy the layman's view of the whole audio engineering discipline.

Available in paperback and hardcover, with B&W (https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Rock-Roll-Electrnics-Enabled/dp/B0CR832NVZ) and color interior (https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Rock-Roll-Enabled-Shaped/dp/B0CPJYFB37). The Read Sample link gives a complete "Table of Contents" and more details about the book and the author. 


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