Album like Orchid by Opeth

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   I've been looking for stuff that's like Orchid for a long while because I just really, really hate the rest of Opeth's catalogue.
What I'm specifically looking for: the riffing style, that sort of power metally/trad heavy twin guitar melody work (think, say, the intro of "In Mist...") where both guitars are playing slightly different melodies or harmonies at the same time as opposed to have one playing melodies and the other doing chords, yet with a certain rock 'n' roll sloppiness to it. Important that there's little to no tremolo picking and the riffs are never chunky or groovy. Also that it has a dry, thin guitar tone. Also, and this is primordial, NO blast beats!
What I'm NOT looking for: stuff that's also melodic but is heavy on tremolo and blasts (literally any melodic black metal), stuff that is just atmospheric but has nothing on the riffing style (Agalloch, Deafheaven, Tiamat, Swallow the Sun, Saturnus, In Mourning, Vehemence, In The Woods...), or bands that sound like Opeth (Scythe, Gwynbleidd). Also, Morningrise. Just no.
The albums I've found the closest thus far are:
Dreichmere - Dispair the Withered Shadows
Autumn Requiem - As I Beheld the Blazing Glory of the Rising Dawn
Ophthalamia - A Journey in Darkness (this is literally Orchid 2!)
Orphaned Land - El Norra Alila
Garden of Shadows - Oracle Moon
Autumnal Winds - Venerari Sacra Mysteria
All 3 Obsequiae releases
The first 3 Katatonia releases (Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day, For Funerals to Come)
I should also mention Amorphis, Dark Tranquility, Edge of Sanity, Anathema, October Tide, Asphodelus, Fatal Embrace and Eucharist, who don't really sound like what I'm looking for, save the odd song.
Sorry for being picky, but I wanted to be specific on what I want. Thank you for your time.

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Orchidphile Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: September 07 2023 Location: Kashmir Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Orchidphile Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Album like Orchid by Opeth Posted: January 02 2024 at 09:32
	I've been looking for stuff that's like Orchid for a long while because I just really, really hate the rest of Opeth's catalogue. What I'm specifically looking for: the riffing style, that sort of power metally/trad heavy twin guitar melody work (think, say, the intro of "In Mist...") where both guitars are playing slightly different melodies or harmonies at the same time as opposed to have one playing melodies and the other doing chords, yet with a certain rock 'n' roll sloppiness to it. Important that there's little to no tremolo picking and the riffs are never chunky or groovy. Also that it has a dry, thin guitar tone. Also, and this is primordial, NO blast beats! What I'm NOT looking for: stuff that's also melodic but is heavy on tremolo and blasts (literally any melodic black metal), stuff that is just atmospheric but has nothing on the riffing style (Agalloch, Deafheaven, Tiamat, Swallow the Sun, Saturnus, In Mourning, Vehemence, In The Woods...), or bands that sound like Opeth (Scythe, Gwynbleidd). Also, Morningrise. Just no. The albums I've found the closest thus far are: Dreichmere - Dispair the Withered Shadows Autumn Requiem - As I Beheld the Blazing Glory of the Rising Dawn Ophthalamia - A Journey in Darkness (this is literally Orchid 2!) Orphaned Land - El Norra Alila Garden of Shadows - Oracle Moon Autumnal Winds - Venerari Sacra Mysteria All 3 Obsequiae releases The first 3 Katatonia releases (Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day, For Funerals to Come) I should also mention Amorphis, Dark Tranquility, Edge of Sanity, Anathema, October Tide, Asphodelus, Fatal Embrace and Eucharist, who don't really sound like what I'm looking for, save the odd song. Sorry for being picky, but I wanted to be specific on what I want. Thank you for your time.

Prog-jester Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5871	Post Options Post Reply Quote Prog-jester Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 02 2024 at 14:22
	a lot of My Dying Bride reminds me of early Opeth atmosphere-wise but this is not what you're looking for I never cared for the Swedish 90s melodeath scene but randomly listened to this whole album recently, and a lot of it sounds just like Orchid on x1.5 speed (especially dual solo guitars and rhythm guitars' riffing):

Dapper~Blueberries Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: November 06 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 352	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dapper~Blueberries Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 25 2024 at 21:39
	Since Orchid is a bit more leaning on the more proggy black metak side, I suggest looking into: Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk by Emperor Arktis. by Ihsahn Meta by Thy Catafalque Isa by Enslaved Shiki by Sigh All five really stellar black prog metal that I think you would really love if you like Orchid.
	D~B

Orchidphile Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: September 07 2023 Location: Kashmir Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Orchidphile Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 12 2024 at 15:06
	Thanks for the recs, but these aren't what I was after. As I said, I'm not after prog black metal (or black metal at all, as I stated), but after a particular riffing style, which none of these albums have at all. That being said, I really enjoyed that Sigh album.